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Forum topic by ScottStewart posted 154 days ago 583 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ScottStewart

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154 days ago

I have graduated to where I don’t embarrass myself at the hardwood dealer when buying solid wood.

But SWMBO wants built ins next to the fireplace. She wants these to be painted. I am going to make these out of Ply with wood face frames, edging. What should I ask for at the plywood stuff since I am not that interested in an amazing looking veneer but am more concerned about voids and structural soundness.

From my initial research I have heard about poplar or baltic birch ply, any ideas

Thanks for any ideas


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The Box Whisperer

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#1 posted 154 days ago

Ive gotten to the point where I only use the baltic for unpainted stuff. I find the cabinet grade home depot birch to be great for painting. Not as nice a ply as the baltic, but a lot cheaper for me. I save my baltic for really nice stuff, or shop jigs where flatness is more important. If its being painted, then I go to HD.

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Grandpa

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#2 posted 154 days ago

In my area there is a plywood that is sold as Varsity Birch. It has no voids and good veneer at a reasonable price. I has more plies than fir plywood such as AC. It comes in 1/2, 5/8, and 3/4 inch thickness. I use it and find it works well for many projects. The next step up is Baltic Birch.

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DrDirt

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#3 posted 154 days ago

You definietly want sanded ply, but since you are painting, you don’t need a hardwood veneer.

As others point out you do want no voids and knots. At our local home center (Menards) there is prefinished maple ply – which is already sealed and easy to paint (other then the fresh cut edges). I like to make shelving out of this, as the uv/epoxy finish is ready to go without me fussing with it, and it only costs an extra buck an sheet.
http://www.menards.com/main/store/20090519001/items/media/BuildingMaterials/BM_ShelterForestInt/Prod_Tech_Spec/125-1700.pdf

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Vincent Nocito

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#4 posted 154 days ago

Birch plywood for the carcase and poplar for face frames and shelf edges. Both take paint reasonably well and you don’t get grain telegraphing through the finish.

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shopdog

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#5 posted 154 days ago

Just like Vincent, I use furniture grade birch ply with poplar face frame/nosing.
You’ll find some voids, but you’ll cover them with the nosing.

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Monte Pittman

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#6 posted 154 days ago

Furniture or cabinet grade plywood. Not cheap, but worth it.

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ScottStewart

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#7 posted 153 days ago

Monte, what do I ask for to get furniture grade ply? I’m not opposed to buying good ply, but I don’t see any reason to pay for amazing looking veneer since I’m going to be painting it. My understanding is that the letter grade applies to the face veneer rather than the interior piles?

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RogerInColorado

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#8 posted 153 days ago

Call some sign painters and ask where they get their MDO, (medium density overlay) sign board. It is a plywood core with a resin impregnated MDF surface. It takes paint like a dream, because that is what it is designed for. They use it for signs that live outside. Any sign painter can give you the rest of the good news. More expensive than cheap plywood, but not as expensive as Baltic birch. Other than that, some cabinet grade birch plywood paints up pretty good, too, but you will always see the grain.

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dhazelton

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#9 posted 153 days ago

Don’t know how wide or deep your shelves will be but you can save some money by using MDF for certain components. Just putting it out there.

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John_H

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#10 posted 153 days ago

I would also suggest MDO for any paint grade project involving sheet goods. It is more expensive, but the time and effort saved getting it ready to paint is well worth it

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bigblockyeti

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#11 posted 153 days ago

Baltic birch usually isn’t too expensive, very flat and stable. AC isn’t bad, but not nearly as stable and could potentially warp, usually much cheaper than Baltic birch but would need more sanding.

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