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02-27-2014 04:08 PM

Hi,

I have another post about upgrading my Dewalt DW744 to something a little more useful for a small shop. I expanded my search a bit and found the saw in the images, they are asking $300 for it. I have read enough to know people love these unisaws, but this looks rough to me but I can see its a unisaw, I cannot see a brand and would have no clue how old it is or what it would be worth cleaned up. It’s a long drive as I would have to travel about 4 to 6 hours to get it, but it is near some property I own in Northern, WI so not so bad on that part. Is $300 worth this saw, or does it look like more of a problem / cost to clean it up?

All thoughts appreciated.

Tom

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI


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#1 posted 02-27-2014 04:12 PM

It looks like a three phase motor, which usually means worked harder and will need replacement for use in most home shops. A few doors are missing, it would be nice if they were there, but you can always fab something from wood to cover the openings. If it has a single phase motor, definitely go for it, the motor would be worth close to the asking price alone, if not maybe closer to $200, knowing you’ll have to do something about the motor after the restoration is complete.

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#2 posted 02-27-2014 04:17 PM

As mentioned, it looks like a three pahse motor. Between the motor and the apparent condition…...I’d keep looking.

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#3 posted 02-27-2014 04:18 PM

Looks like a real project.Given the size of the motor I’m wondering if it’s a 3phase motor. If your budget can reach the $500-$750 there a lot more table saws out there that I think might serve you well ,some even new. If on the other hand you want a long term project and love vintage machinery then go for it and offer no more than $200. I’m guessing this may be from the 60s.

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looks like bigblock and I were typing at the same time.

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#4 posted 02-27-2014 04:30 PM

Thanks guys, looks like I will pass. I don’t have 2 phase (currently only have 120 in shop and 220 via extension cord from house)... 220 is coming this summer once the ground thaws.

Guess I just need to be patient until the right saw comes around as I don’t want to risk getting a bad (alignment issue) Hybrid just to play the return game.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#5 posted 02-27-2014 04:48 PM

Wow, that could be a real find, and if the starting price is 300, I’ll bet you could get it down. That’s a workhorse and with a little elbow grease, and worst case you have to replace bearings and put a phase converter on it. It would be a steal. Offer 200 and see if they take it.

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#6 posted 02-27-2014 04:51 PM

Honestly I paid for 400 for a unisaw in worse condition. You can get a VFD for about 150 that will let you use single phase on a three phase motor. It doesn’t look that bad all told.

Its a 1970’s vintage saw.

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#7 posted 02-27-2014 04:56 PM

ok… lets say I would get this, can riving knives be added? is there a good place to get parts if it needed any? I know very little about this stuff but don’t mind a cleanup, restoration would be beyond my ability at this point.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#8 posted 02-27-2014 05:05 PM

Looks like a Rockwell. What a nice buy $250 would be…too bad about the distance. It’s worth the asking price in parts though.

The BORK riving knife should fit that saw, but you can always check with Bob Ross to confirm.

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#9 posted 02-27-2014 05:12 PM

The BORK riving knife is one option, as for the kind found on many new cabinet saws that rises and falls with the blade, no one has a cost effective retrofit yet, a factory splitter would be better than nothing. Ebay would be your best bet to find parts, maybe not the least expensive, but 90% of the time you’ll find what you’re looking for. If it hasn’t been abused, a restoration wouldn’t necessarily be required.

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#10 posted 02-27-2014 05:14 PM

Might be a dumb question, but I have to ask… until I get 220 has anyone ever put a 120v motor on these (something like a 1.5HP harbor freight or similar?)

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#11 posted 02-27-2014 05:22 PM

I contacted the seller and left a message. I would worry about money pit as I don’t know how much parts might be, but seems like if I could get it for $200 to $250ish that would leave me about $350 from the cost of a ridged hybrid for fixing stuff… the 120 motor option if viable is a pretty big deal so I could use the saw in the interim until I get 220.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#12 posted 02-27-2014 05:30 PM

That is an original unisaw with the original fence and throat plate. The motor looks to be single phase due to the size. 3 phase motors are smaller in size. The motor has a special mount that would not allow a motor not intended for a unisaw to be substituted. If it is single phase, I would buy it, as long as it works. If 3 phase, I would offer $150, considering a new motor would have to be installed.

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#13 posted 02-27-2014 05:46 PM

looking on ebay I see they have this: 1.5 HP Leeson 120925 Delta UNISAW┬« Motor 3450 RPM 115/230V 1 Phase 3/4 In. Shaft for $319+ shipping, looks like if it would fit it would meet my temporary 110 requirement and be expandable to 220 later when I get it (if it would fit) and as long as nothing else was wrong would remain within my budget… of course if they take $150 that is more wiggle room…

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#14 posted 02-27-2014 07:26 PM

That saw looks a little rough to me but you have to pay what they bring in your area. I read and read about people buying them for nothing and had decided I would have to possibly buy a new one to one a Unisaw. I went to an auction and bought a good looking Unisaw in a plant closing. Those have often been used more and have more wear on them but you have to pay what they bring in your area. I paid $180 for a Unisaw with a 52 inch Unifence. It has a 5 hp 3 phase motor. I can work with that. I bought the lowest priced saw there that day. Identical saw went for up to $250 or so.

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#15 posted 02-27-2014 08:00 PM

My area is Milwaukee, WI and I really don’t know what a good price is other than a few listings on craigslist which place them anywhere from this one to $1,500+. Unfortunately I don’t know any other local woodworkers to consult with and I am just starting out in the hobby, but lumberjocks is a great resource that I am glad I found, such a great community.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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