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jSchrock

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01-03-2009 11:57 PM

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There’s a new store not far from town, it’s a Black and Decker store and has everything. It’s got every tool and seen on tv gimzo in this store. I am a beginner and a sroll saw and tablesaw for $99 sounds too good to be true. They also have table top bandsaw and beltsander for the same price. Has anyone tried these tools or should i just steer clear from mult-purpose one stop shop stores like this one?


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#1 posted 01-04-2009 01:47 AM

I’d steer away from B&D. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If you’re just getting into woodworking, personally I’d think Ryobi which is in the lower price range would be a better choice. But that’s just me. Good luck!

-- Carl Rast, Pelion, SC

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#2 posted 01-04-2009 03:42 PM

It has been my experience that you want to buy the best tool you can afford. Otherwise you will end up buying a better one later on. That means you will have spent money for the same tool twice. That said, if you are just starting woodworking, look into used tools or take a class at a local place (like Woodcraft). I have taken classes there and found that learning from an actual person is great.

-- Berta in NC

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#3 posted 01-04-2009 04:32 PM

I think a lot depends on your level of commitment to woodworking. Four years ago, I had never done any real woodworking…. just typical handyman stuff like putting shelves up and whatnot. I saw a Ryobi table saw in HD one day for $89, I happened to have a few extra bucks in my pocket, and I thought “Hey, this thing might come in handy.”

To make a long story short, I was bitten by the woodworking bug instantly when I saw what even a cheap tablesaw could do. I used that little saw to create every project you currently see on my projects page. I finally got a full sized table saw a month or so ago, and it has opened up a lot more options for my work, but I sure got my money’s worth out of that little screamer!

The bottom line is that I don’t think there is anything wrong with buying a cheap version of a tool to help you decide whether or not you want a better one later on. Everyone’s financial situation is different, but I’d rather spend $100 on something and find out later that I really need an upgrade, than spend $500 on a tool and find out I almost never use it, and that the cheap one would have sufficed for occasional use.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#4 posted 01-04-2009 04:41 PM

If your a beginner, start off cheap. If you want to upgrade sometime,

you can sell them to recoup some of your investment.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#5 posted 01-04-2009 05:00 PM

if you’re a beginner you don’t want to start out with festool or anything but i wouldn’t go as low as B&D. like said above even ryobi would be better or more preferable bosch, porter cable, or dewalt

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#6 posted 01-04-2009 05:37 PM

I’ve had rather poor results with B&D-Delta-PC service centers. These companies, now under one ownership, change products with a high degree of frequency, and they don’t offer replacement parts for very long. Five to ten years down the road you would likely have a tool that can’t be repaired.

I will also add that the entry level stationary tools, such as table saws, are powered with universal type electric motors. My advice is to look for induction motors for this class of tools, even if you have to buy used equipment.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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Jim Crockett (USN Retired)

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#7 posted 01-05-2009 06:00 AM

As you say, you are new to woodworking. To get your feet wet, it wouldn’t hurt to get a few B&D tools, if you get them relatively inexpensively – $99 for a scroll saw and tablesaw sounds almost too inexpensive, though. If you do get these tools, you will be able to learn the basics and decide if you actually enjoy woodworking but don’t expect to make high-precision cuts or cut heavy/thick wood. Many people have got into woodworking with benchtop tablesaws and then upgraded later to a better and more powerful unit. The cheaper ‘beginner’ tool lets you determine what you want in a more expensive one later on. And, as someone suggested, you may be able to sell or pass on your inexpensive tool to another beginner.

Jim

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#8 posted 01-05-2009 06:17 PM

My first tools were a B & D mitre saw and a Makita table saw and a Craftsman router – that was 25 yrs ago! I just passed on the Makita to my nephew…I kept the B & D for rough work (metal cutting, etc) and that Router will live forever! I have recently replaced all 3 with new higher quality tools including a planer
and 2 new routers. You can never have too many tools. The problem is you can run out of space in the workshop!!

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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#9 posted 01-05-2009 07:56 PM

I have some Black and Decker items. Cordless drill, have had it for 4 years now. Love it. Its no 18v Dewalt, but it cost less than a Dewalt battery. Miter Saw, decent. Don’t trust the degree ruler. I have cut 8/4 Bloodwood and other super hard woods with no problem, on the factory blade. Router, decent once again. Great for a starter router. The main thing I hate about it is the base, not completely round, has a flat side.

-- T. Nelson

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#10 posted 01-05-2009 10:08 PM

Thanks everyone for your input. I’m not going to get the B&D right know i just wanted more stuff. Everyone makes a good point i think i’ll pay a little more for the tools i know i will use and save a little on the tools i won’t use as often until it becomes neccessary. thanks again.

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