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Forum topic by Danpaddles posted 02-24-2014 10:55 PM 1358 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Danpaddles

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02-24-2014 10:55 PM

Familiar topic-

I would take a pict, not sure it would help near as much as my description. And it would need my wifes’ fancy camera, to get the right color.

I thought it was red oak. but- it is darker, more golden. I thought I was just seeing surface discoloration, but now that I have planed and cut some- nope, it is golden all the way through.

It is VERY well aged, having been in the attic of a large building for many years. It was mixed in with poplar and ash, and …. probably some red oak.

The grain looks just like red oak to me. The end cut, also, much like red oak, except for the color. No rays, like in white oak. I have several boards of it, at least. Maybe more when I get further into the stack. The two boards I have out now tend to be from the center of the tree, based on the curve of the growth rings.

When I cut it, it smells just like a Band-aid! Does not smell at all like oak being cut. Similar density and hardness to oak. I am thinking it wants to splinter out a little more than the last oak I used.

Some warping, not beyond what I would expect from wood stored this way.

Sure it will help, I’ll try to put up some photos later tonight. Just came in from the shop to start dinner…. I’ll use it and enjoy it no matter what. But that smell- just bugging me, it is not like any oak I have used before.

FWIW- I am using some to build a computer/ brief case, loosely based on Stumpy Nubs plans.

thanks for your thoughts!

-- Dan V. in Indy


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 02-24-2014 11:16 PM

This is first, wood ID by verbal description. Sorry I can’t picture it.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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mahdee

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#2 posted 02-24-2014 11:30 PM

Could be elm based on your description but as bondo says, its just a wild guess.

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Danpaddles

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#3 posted 02-24-2014 11:31 PM

okay- got the camera. The second shot has a piece of red oak on the left, for comparison.

Ended up having to shrink the images down anyway- told her not buy such a damn fancy camera!

I’ve looked thru the wood-database.com, all the oak varieties list the same distinctive smell. Which this wood does NOT have.

-- Dan V. in Indy

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TravisH

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#4 posted 02-25-2014 12:03 AM

cypress?

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mahdee

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#5 posted 02-25-2014 12:07 AM

oak.

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mahdee

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#6 posted 02-25-2014 12:13 AM

I have apiece of wood like that, that looks a lot like oak, but have forgotten what the name is. Very identical to oak, but with much profound grain and highlights. The bugs almost ate it all.

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Danpaddles

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#7 posted 02-25-2014 12:22 AM

There were traces of some bugs.

The cypress I have used (Adirondack chairs) was blonder, softer, almost looked like good pine.

English elm… Hmmm… maybe?

-- Dan V. in Indy

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mahdee

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#8 posted 02-25-2014 12:36 AM

Could be E-lem as they call it here.

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bondogaposis

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#9 posted 02-25-2014 02:24 AM

I’ll join the crowd and say elm.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Danpaddles

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#10 posted 02-25-2014 05:39 AM

Well, we will call it elm from now on. Thanks all- I would not have figure it out on my own.

-- Dan V. in Indy

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WDHLT15

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#11 posted 02-25-2014 11:59 AM

The end grain pics that you show are a softwood, most likely a pine of some type. Note the dark latewood band. You will not see this in a hardwood.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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jterry

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#12 posted 02-25-2014 03:28 PM

Really does not look like oak or elm either. Elm has a lot of ziggy zaggy stuff between the rings on plain sliced side. It look more like ash to me, but it isn’t exactly like ash either. The end grain is looking like pine, but the plain grain really doesn’t. try to get a bigger picture. The end grain piece is in the way. suggest you google different varieties of wood and look at images. There is a lot of variation within species.

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SCOTSMAN

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#13 posted 02-25-2014 04:11 PM

could it be ash? Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#14 posted 02-25-2014 04:16 PM

Elm tends to have an interlocking grain making it very hard to work. Based upon the smell you describe and the color it is probably still oak. There are a serious amount of different oaks in the pin oak, black oak, red oak, white oak families. I have been told that there is something like a 1000 different varieties. I have some ash that looks like that as well. The main difference is weight, the ash is heavier than the oak.

The best part of it – enjoy! Make something gorgeous out of it. If some asks you what it is made out of, be honest, tell them that it is wood.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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Danpaddles

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#15 posted 02-25-2014 05:30 PM

David has it right- have fun with it! I am working on a piece that will stay in my shop.

Alistair- I doubt ash, I have some ash around, in fact here was some ash with this wood when it was dropped off. But the color range is just not the same. And the distinctive smell of band aids when I cut it is different then ash. Danny, here is a different end grain shot, actually cut at 45 degrees. Your point about the growth rings makes sense though. (How do you like your Woodmizer? I used to work for them! Great company)

I spent a lot of time on Wood-database last night (no more olympics to watch-). Found this article, makes a good point. We will call it “wood”. http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/the-truth-behind-wood-identification/ I am happy with that. But just for the sake of discussion- here are two more shots.

Thanks all, lunch is over, time to make sawdust.

-- Dan V. in Indy

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