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MrRon

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149 days ago

A well known musician was on his way to Carnegi Hall in New York City to give a performance and passed a street musician. The street musician approached the well recognized musician and asked him how he could get good enough to play at Carnegi Hall. The reply was; practice, practice. The same goes for anyone wanting to be good at whatever he wants, whether it be woodworking, painting, writing, cooking, etc.


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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 149 days ago

Agreed. I am far from being as good as I want to be. The only way to get their is making more sawdust and improving my skills.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it. - It's not ability that we often lack, but the patience to use our ability

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Texcaster

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#2 posted 149 days ago

We can always improve. Getting there is half the fun. I’ve had all the fun I can handle, now I’m ready to trade my woodworking skills for fiddling chops. The Devil Went Down To Range View….. Opry here I come!

Pixie Jenkins, old school Aussie entertainer and fantastic muso!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLQ9eOYTIRE

-- Bill....... I listen very closely to the timber and then impose my will.

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Belg1960

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#3 posted 149 days ago

Ron, while I totally agree with you when it to practice makes perfect. I’m also a strong believer that you need to be taught the CORRECT technique to practice. As a basement dweller being primarily self taught I have a big concern when I look at youtube for inspiration/education I never know if I’m getting the best advice. Hope you follow my line of thought. Pat

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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Texcaster

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#4 posted 149 days ago

To be serious for a moment. Anyone that cares about doing the work well is already a craftsman. We just improve.

-- Bill....... I listen very closely to the timber and then impose my will.

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JayT

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#5 posted 149 days ago

Pat, agree 100%. When I was teaching music, the phrase used with students was “Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect”. My poor hand sawing technique will only be improved by practicing with good technique, not by cutting a thousand boards poorly.

Practice the wrong thing or the right thing in the wrong way and it becomes a bad habit that is difficult to overcome. Luckily in woodworking, there are many areas where there is no one right way, so there are several different possibilities for how to practice and improve.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Ocelot

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#6 posted 149 days ago

My old music teacher used to say “Don’t practice the music you know how to play. Practice the music you don’t know how to play”. Taking that over to woodworking, we should be trying new things and things we have done poorly in the past.

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MrRon

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#7 posted 148 days ago

I might also add: Practice makes perfect and You learn by your mistakes.

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TerryDowning

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#8 posted 148 days ago

+1 to what JayT said.

Practice makes permanent.

-- - Terry

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Rick M.

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#9 posted 148 days ago

Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect.
-Vince Lombardi

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

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oldnovice

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#10 posted 148 days ago

That’s along the same thinking as in never having completed a perfect project; there is always room for improvement and fewer mistakes along the way.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Kaleb the Swede

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#11 posted 148 days ago

Practicing makes permanence not perfection. Hence why you need the perfect practice.

I played Carnegie hall in June of 2010 premiering a piece by an Argentinian composer. One of the greatest experiences of my musical/professional life.

My woodworking is maybe good enough for very fine toothpicks that don’t try to hurt people, hence I need more practice at woodworking

-- Just trying to build something beautiful

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Belg1960

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#12 posted 148 days ago

Kaleb, I would think a man that makes his living from music is SUPER safety conscious. I myself gave up playing sports as I could not work if I got hurt. (Self employed electrician)

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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Kaleb the Swede

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#13 posted 148 days ago

True pat. I’m extremely safety conscious. I never use my table without a push stick/block. And any other machine gets checked where my hands are 4 to 5 times before cutting

-- Just trying to build something beautiful

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oldnovice

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#14 posted 148 days ago

Kaleb you have really diverse profession and hobby! In my opinion these two complement each other as beautiful music consists of individual notes and in woodworking individual pieces make a project. An error in a note or a project part show up in the completion.

Carnigie Hall, WOW that must have been quite an experience!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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summerfi

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#15 posted 148 days ago

He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist. – St. Francis of Assissi (1181-1226)

Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art. – Tom Stoppard (1937-)

There are two men inside the artist, the poet and the craftsman. One is born a poet. One becomes a craftsman. – Emile Zola

When a work lifts your spirits and inspires bold and noble thoughts in you, do not look for any other standard to judge by: the work is good, the product of a master craftsman. – Jean de la Bruyere

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Of all the tools I own, my favorite is a good sharp pocket knife. - My Dad

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