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Blackie_

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148 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: box question

A custom order to any LJ box builder that wants it, I’ll put you in contact with customer, please let me know, as it’s a little much for me.

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I just had a customer contact me through my business page on facebook wanting a custom box built to hold or house 72 watches, she wants three trays each tray to hold 24 watches along with watch pillows, she wants it also with lock and key a locking mechanism, she specified that she didn’t want a rustic appeal and she favors Cherry wood or the sort, she liked the style and finish of my cypress and Wenge project listed below.

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When I first read her order I didn’t read it clearly as I described it above, I thought she wanted a box to hold 24 watches so after speaking with her more through several more messages, I told her I would get back with her on a quote, the next day I started to work on it but thought I’d better reread her original message again to make sure all ducks were in a row and that’s when I discovered that she wants box to hold 72 watches not 24, my response to her was and please someone let me know if my calculations are correct?

I told the customer I thought that would make the trays very… heavy and that the interior of the box would have to be 36” in length and the exterior 39” with 5/8” walls and tray removal, as each watch bay with pillow would have to be 3” wide to accommodate the pillows also that I’m not sure I could build a tray sturdy enough to support the weight.

So I’m asking if I am correct in my calculations and if someone wants to take this on?

The Customers original message;

Customer:

Hi Randy, I would like to surprise my hubby for his birthday in July.
We both like watches.
I was thinking of 3 trays (floors) each to hold 24 watches. He wears them up to 52mm so compartment has to fit 52mm along with pillow.
Another tray to hold straps, like mini drawers
Last tray to hold tools with mini drawers too.
Nothing rustic.
Please let me know if I need to provide additional info.
Thanks

I am in Miami Florida zip code 33016.

Barby


Customer:

Forgot to mention it must have some type of lock/key

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs


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Roger

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#1 posted 148 days ago

Sounds like a dresser for watches. Wow!

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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The Box Whisperer

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#2 posted 148 days ago

I think you’re right, I think it would be way too heavy. Sometimes customers an have a great vision of what they want, but don’t understand wood or woodworking. In this case, since they both collect, a matching his and hers set of 2 boxes would be more appropriate for that many watches.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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RogerBean

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#3 posted 148 days ago

Sounds like she’s thinking of something along the lines of hingeman’s cufflink box. Here, at lumberjocks.com/projects/51675. Size and features seem about similar. It will be interesting to see if anyone is willing to make something that she will be willing to pay for.
Roger

-- "Everybody makes mistakes. A craftsman always fixes them." (Monty Kennedy, "The Checkering and Carving of Gunstocks", 1952)

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The Box Whisperer

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#4 posted 148 days ago

I have no shame in admitting that that project would be beyond my current skill. Dont get me wrong, Id love to take it on and see what I could do, but as a project to learn on and keep. For me to sell somehting it really has to be near perfect.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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Blackie_

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#5 posted 148 days ago

TBW, you are right in more ways then one and if it’s not the customer is going to let you know, I’ve come to learn this during my path in sales and I take it as a learning experience, it’s happened to me once and it was a lesson learned.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Jim Jakosh

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#6 posted 148 days ago

I’d start with an idea of what she would be willing to pay for a box that large and with that detail. Some people have no idea of the work and material that goes into making something like that and they want arts and crafts pricing. It sounds like a nice project, though.
I cannot take that on here because of other commitments and the unavailability of cherry here in Az.

..................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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mrjinx007

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#7 posted 148 days ago

Be careful of this. I have had a few FL zip codes requesting similar things and not pay. Verify that this person address exists.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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Blackie_

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#8 posted 148 days ago

007 though I don’t plan on taking this one, I never start on a custom project without having half of payment to get me started right off the bat.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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The Box Whisperer

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#9 posted 148 days ago

Blackie, thanks for the kind words. I guess for me its just as simple as knowing limits, and not taking it as an ego hit. There are plenty of things I can and do make to near perfection, and sell, this is just not one of them. The part Im hoping for is YET.

I think that if things were different, and this were a client you could sit and and talk to face to face, you could convince them of the logic of 2 smaller boxes. Maybe I’m biased because what I can see in my head as a solution is something I could build. It would not have the wow factor of hingemans box (not even close) but I could make something nice none the less. That being said, I am a lot more flexible for customers that can talk to me. A simple email request like that will often get a simple yes or no answer.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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Scott Oldre

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#10 posted 145 days ago

Personally, and I’m not a box maker at all, I would do a simple drawing of what she is asking for, and on the drawing show how it would all be distributed. Show her the areas of issue. Perhaps she can give you a better idea of what she’s accept as alternatives if you show her options to her initial idea. Customer is always right, but at the same time, the designer has to show the wisdom of doing it “HIS/HER” way.

I’m reading 5 levels. Top 3 levels of 24 watches each, and two lower height levels for the straps and tools. Watches in a tray would be 6 wide by 4 deep. Distribution of tools and watch bands are unknown from the email. Wondering why the trays couldn’t be split up into smaller removable sections on each level. As far as pulling out a full tray, I would think laminations would help with the weight of the structure, just a matter of how to put it all together asthetically.

Come on Lumber Jocks, here’s a challenge to design something. Not saying you have to build it, but would be fun to see everyone chime in with “Here’s how I’d do it”

-- Scott, Irmo SC

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mrjinx007

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#11 posted 145 days ago

I am wondering, why Mrs. Barby gives the measurements in metric?

-- earthartandfoods.com

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Blackie_

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#12 posted 145 days ago

I suggested to her that from what she is asking that a nice stylish elegant cabinet of drawers might be a better option and she’s open in this area and sent me some photos that she was open too only I’ve never made anything like this before, so once again if anyone is interested in this project please let me know.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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leafherder

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#13 posted 144 days ago

To answer 007’s question, she probably gave metric measurements because that is the international standard for watches. (I used to work in a jewelry store.) Everything about watches is measured in millimeters – straps, dials, crystals – especially high quality Swiss watches.

When I worked in the business we got a great employee discount that we were expected to use but only for ourselves – they wanted the sales staff to wear the products we sold. Since we had a limited selection of men’s jewelry, I acquired a lot of watches, but nowhere near 72. There are companies that manufacture storage/display boxes/cases/cabinets specifically for watches. You can do a quick search on the internet and find them – that should give you a model for a custom design.

Good luck to whoever takes on this project – watch collectors can be very picky with all the minor details – like chemical fumes from adhesives and finishes that might damage rubber gaskets that make watches water resistant – or lint and dust from the lining fabric and padding.

-- Leafherder

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bigblockyeti

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#14 posted 144 days ago

I suspect given the quality that is implied this would end up being rather expensive, +1 on getting half up front, and document all correspondence with the customer so the both of you know what’s being requested. If they’re collecting watches, they probably aren’t by timex, this could be lucrative if the project matches the customer’s vision.

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#15 posted 144 days ago

%10 to get a drawing, %50 to start, %30 for delivery, %10 on receipt. In cypress… $4000.00 finished. Turnaround. aprox. 3 months.

-- Who is John Galt?

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