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02-23-2014 12:06 AM

I’m building a frameless kitchen with overlaid doors on euro hinges.
First time doing frameless and first time using euro hinges.

I’ve built the cabinets as individual units, meaning where they come together there is a 1 1/2” edge band (in this case I’m using 3/4” thick material). In some spots, adjoining cabinets also have the hinges facing each other.

I’m totally confused about which hinges and plates to get, and even what my options are for overlays. I wanted to start building doors today but thought better of it until I really understand the hinges.

My doors will be 7/8” thick.

Where hinges face each other, I’d like to be able to overlay each door 5/8” (on my 3/4” plywood).
This leaves 1/8” on each cabinet, for a total of a 1/4” gap between doors.

First question:
Is this possible?

Second Question:
Which hinge and plate will work for my 7/8” door with a 5/8” overlay?

On the two end runs, I’d like to use a 1/2” overlay, to keep the same 1/4” reveal.

Between pairs of doors I’d use a 3/32” or 1/8” reveal.

Please help! Can’t proceed until I understand this and Blum is closed until Monday.

Many thanks, all.
Ben


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#1 posted 02-23-2014 12:48 AM

You need a “Straight Arm” Hinge
For the 5/8” overlay you need a 0mm hinge plate
For the 1/2” overlay you need a 3mm hinge plate
You should drill your hinge cup hole in the door 5mm from the edge.

Regular hinges should work without having to go to a “Thick Door” hinge, but you should make a sample before drilling your doors.

Here is their web site.
http://www.blum.com/us/en/01/20/40/

scroll to the bottom and download their brochere and instructions or planning for more help

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#2 posted 02-23-2014 12:52 AM

Thanks, Kevin.
So are you saying regardless of overlay, I drill the hinge cup hole 5mm from the edge?
As long as I know that both 5/8” and 1/2” overlays are definitely possible, I can start building doors!

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#3 posted 02-23-2014 12:54 AM

I added the website for you to look at. you can find the chart and the hinge style and it will tell you how far to drill the hole, what hinge plate to use to get the desired overlay.
To answer your question you can get 1/2 overlay or 5/8 overlay combinations
Start building your doors.

Some overlays you need to drill in a little farther, or for less of an overlay not as far. depends on the hinge and overlay. Find the chart and figure out how to read it and it becomes crystal clear…

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#4 posted 02-23-2014 01:04 AM

Thanks.
I feel like an idiot but I can’t make any sense of that chart on the website.

But I will start building doors!

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#5 posted 02-23-2014 02:46 AM

Don’t feel bad, it took me more than once to figure it out.
Quick lesson, Look at the chart.
The easiest way is once you know the overlay you want (in mm) find it on the chart
In this case it’s 16mm (5/8) circled in red. Now draw a straight line to the left. This is the size hinge plate you use.
Draw a line straight down, this is the distance from the edge of the door that you drill the hole.
So according to the chart you use a Omm hinge plate
and you drill your hole in 5mm from the edge and it gives you a 16mm overlay on your door.

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#6 posted 02-23-2014 02:56 AM

One more,
Say you wanted a 1/4” (6.35mm) overlay door.
Go to the chart and select the closest number to 6mm
go straight to the left, it says to use a 9mm hinge plate,
go straight down, it says to drill your hinge hole 4mm in from the edge.

Now all you have to do is learn how to find the right hinge application for what your doing.
Example 110 degree opening? 120 degree opening? face frame application? Then look at the chart to match up the correct hinge plate with that hinge to get your overlay

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#7 posted 02-23-2014 03:12 AM

You’re the man, Kevin. Thanks.

Can’t seem to find my way back to that chart ,though!

So you say I need the 0mm hinge plate for my 5/8” offset, but imply there are several different kinds of 0mm plate? Oof.

With the 5/8” overlay, what are my options for door opening degree?

Thanks again. Very helpful.

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#8 posted 02-23-2014 03:25 AM

What do you think of the self close/Blumotion, Kevin?

I’ve tried them and they seem like a huge annoyance to me. But might help protect the door in the long run.

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