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MisterBill

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02-20-2014 12:09 PM

I want to make a Flag and Certificate Case similar to this one:

The measurements, 18” x 20” x 3”, and joinery are straight forward. My question is how would the glass be installed?

Slide the glass into place through a slot cut into the top and into dados in the sides and bottom?

In looking at the picture, it appears as if a portion of the two sides of the flag case are on the outside of the glass.
Maybe just the flag case has glass over it and the rest is open?

What if the entire case were to have a glass front?

Any and all alternative methods and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 02-20-2014 12:33 PM

That could be 2 pieces of glass; the lower one cut in a triangle for the flag case, and the upper one cut in a “swallow tail” pattern to fit that opening. That would probably be how I would do it….in my case I would cut 1/8” hardboard templates to fit the glass openings and take them to my glass shop for reproduction.

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#2 posted 02-20-2014 01:07 PM

+ Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 02-20-2014 02:02 PM

I just finished a flag and certificate case for a friend. Although not joined, I see the same principle. For the flag portion, I see the face trim larger then the stock used. If the stock for the flag portion is 3/4 inch cut a face piece at 1 inch. Dress allowing the 1/4 to the inside. Rabbet the back of the flag portion to work like a picture frame. Use 1/4 inch square dowels to hold the glass in place. So you would put in glass, place dowels inside to glass, (I would use small screws so it could be removed/replaced if needed). Add flag then the back. Now sealed. I don’t see glass in the upper portion but if that’s what you wanted, use the same principle. Just make the flag trim face 1.25 instead of 1 inch and overlap allowing 1/4 on each side. Will hold both pieces that way. Just a note, I had to change to plexiglass for mine because I could not find anyone who would cut the glass. (Angles). Hope this helps.

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#4 posted 02-20-2014 02:14 PM

I place the triangle in after the glass is put in. Makes it harder to remove if broken but still can be done. I’ve made hundreds of them and never had a problem.

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#5 posted 02-20-2014 02:26 PM

+1 jeffswildwood
I made on for a Christmas gift this year. I also had to use plexie. To secure the glass I just finished some 1/8×1 x 1/4 pieces then supper glued them to the inside holding the glass in place. When a glass shop is found that will cut glass for it I will pop out the tabs with a chisel and remove the plexie and replace with the glass the same way.

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#6 posted 02-20-2014 02:39 PM

That design looks like the glass is square in a dado about 3/4 – 1” in from the face edge and the triangle is trim on the outside. If the bottom angle of the trim has a slight bevel tipping it in it would stay tight to the glass. That’s how I would do it.

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#7 posted 02-20-2014 02:41 PM

If you look closely at the top of the triangle, you can see the groove where the glass is inserted.

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MisterBill

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#8 posted 02-20-2014 07:25 PM

I found out that the entire case is covered with a single pane of glass and that the two sides/caps of the flag case are on the outside of the glass.

The back of the case is held on with screws so that the case can be opened and closed.

Now to tweak my measurements!!

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#9 posted 02-20-2014 08:51 PM

I guess that would work too….. :) good luck on your project and please post when done!

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Fred Hargis

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#10 posted 02-20-2014 09:28 PM

That would certainly make it a little easier (and cheaper). Good luck with the build.

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#11 posted 02-21-2014 01:56 PM

MisterBill, Could not reply to your messge until my 5th post so here it is… What I mean is to cut the angle on the trim as you would in a miter saw but then run it (the angle cut) on a sander to give it a 2-3 degree bevel to tip it back toward the glass. When inserting your pane of glass you may have to spread the gap for the glass but that will keep the trim from tipping away from the glass. Hope that clears it up.

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BeeFarmer

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#12 posted 02-21-2014 02:07 PM

Just a thought, You may want to measure the angle of a folded flag, I don’t believe it’s at a 45 degree as that one in the picture appears to be.

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MisterBill

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#13 posted 02-26-2014 12:53 AM

I am progressing nicely on my two Flag & Certificate cases but an up coming challenge is how do I adhere the crushed velvet to the rear panel?

I suppose that I could use one of 3M’s spray adhesives but I would have concerns about off gassing.

Does anyone have some sage advice that they would like to share?

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#14 posted 02-26-2014 12:09 PM

Most adhesives aren’t like finishes, they don’t off gas forever….and that’s probably what I would use. But you could also just use some double coated tape, completely coveing the substrate and then apply the fabric.

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