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Forum topic by macgee posted 02-18-2014 08:14 AM 1800 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-18-2014 08:14 AM

I was just about to buy a Forstner bit set on sale (has good reviews) from Woodcraft but then noticed by that woodcraft is automatically signing you up with the aggressive marketing company called Woodworkers Guild of America when you purchase an item from Woodcraft.

Woodworkers Guild of America is infamous for sending you DVD’s without asking and then later sending letters to you demanding payments for the DVD’s even though they have no legal right to. Woodworkers Guild of America is owned by the telemarketing company TN Marketing.

I have to say I’m really bummed if Woodcraft is doing this and giving you no way to opt out of this while trying to buy tools. I thought this was a very tabu thing to do from any respectable business’s so I’m surprised Woodcraft is doing this.

There’s a tool review site called toolguyd that just recently posted an article about it and rightly made us aware of it.

Has anyone else experienced this?

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#1 posted 02-18-2014 12:31 PM

I have done busines with Woodcraft, Rockler, and Lee Valley and have recieved nothing from Woodworkers Guild of America. Just because you saw it on the internet does not make it true. I believe the above companies have a policy of not selling information to other companies. I’m not sure the same is true for amazon, ebay, or google..

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#2 posted 02-18-2014 01:11 PM

I, too, have done business with Rockler and Woodcraft and have not noticed this however always be careful.

-- Just learning the craft my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ practiced.

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#3 posted 02-18-2014 01:32 PM

I recieved the DVD twice. The first time after signing up for a PWW subscription. I freaked when I got the bill and called them and learned that you don’t need to pay for it but it was a hassle. The second time was after a woodcraft order and I returned it to sender without even opening it.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#4 posted 02-18-2014 02:13 PM

Whenever I disclose my name and address to a new vendor, I always slightly misspell either my first or last name, or sometimes use an entirely different name like a pet name, e.g. ‘Rover.’

So if I receive mail from an unsolicited company, I’ll automatically know who gave them my address info.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#5 posted 02-18-2014 03:15 PM

I’ve ordered from Rockler and Woodcraft and have not received any DVDs or WWGA propaganda. If I get the DVD I will be sending it back unopened.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#6 posted 02-18-2014 03:33 PM

I’ve never had any problems with Woodcraft. My first purchase from them was way back in 1971. I’m also fond of Highland Woodworking.

Sorry, I meant 1971. You’ll have to excuse me sometimes. I’m 63 going on 80. ;-|

helluvawreck aka Charles

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#7 posted 02-18-2014 03:37 PM

Wow, 1871? What’d you buy, a brand new compass plane?

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#8 posted 02-18-2014 03:40 PM

I’ve bought stuff from woodcraft and Rockler.Never got anything from WW guild. If I did I would just toss it out without further consideration. I am very mistrustful of anything that calls itself a “guild” Lumberjocks is as “guilded” as I get.

-- atta boy Clarence!

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#9 posted 02-18-2014 03:58 PM

I’ve bought a few things from Woodcraft in the past, but just sent them a note that because of this “partnership” with WWGoA, I will direct my purchases elsewhere. I also made sure to do that as site feedback, not as a direct email. No need giving them another chance to use/sell my info to a dishonest group like that.

-- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

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#10 posted 02-18-2014 04:49 PM

I’ve given an incorrect alias to suspect vendors when no one else has what I’m looking for. I found after subscribing to Motorcyclist magazine with an incorrect name, I started getting a lot of stuff sent to me with the name I had given them. Haven’t seen anything lately, but I’m not sure when Source Interlink sold the magazine to the Bonnier corp.

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#11 posted 02-18-2014 05:02 PM

I don’t know if they’re doing it with every item, but it is listed on the web page of a number I checked: I like woodcraft and lean heavily on their local store here. This looks like a new “promotion” to me, so a well-crafted email to them could inform them that the customers find this more of a pain than a bonus. I’m not going to ditch them over a small thing like this.

Edit: I just went on customer service online chat and asked the rep to please pass on my message.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#12 posted 02-18-2014 06:28 PM

Ted, er, DavidL123, just go away. No one needs your spam.


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#13 posted 02-18-2014 06:39 PM

Quote: you can try this woodworking plans and projects

(Don’t click!)

^This exactly what I like to avoid, spammers!

I have to say of lately I pleasantly had not been subjected to them for a long time which has been great but seems to be creeping back.

The irony of the OP is we now have one in this thread with the subject about spammers hitting up wood workers.

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#14 posted 02-18-2014 09:26 PM

Hey, Ted aka DavidL123 went away.

Anyone need anything else done? I’m on a roll.


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#15 posted 02-18-2014 09:54 PM

Woodcraft does not give or sell email or postal addresses to Woodworkers Guild of America. Woodcraft is offering free access to the Guild’s premium content with orders, and we provide a unique offer code upon checkout. To take advantage of the offer, you must go to their website and sign up. At that point, you are on their list, but have the option to unsubscribe at any time.

We thought our customers would be happy to receive free content, and have had positive feedback from our in-store customers about the offer. I am disappointed to read about your experience with the Woodworkers Guild of America, and will address your issues with them.

Our goal is to provide the best possible woodworking experience for our customers in all areas. Thank you for your comments.

Nancy Miller
Head of Digital Retail

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