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LiveEdge

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02-17-2014 05:02 AM

Topic tags/keywords: chandelier wiring electrical

My wife would like a mason jar chandelier (apparently they are all the rage). The build isn’t hard, but I wondered about the electrical end. If I build a three inch deep hollow box that will be mounted to the ceiling, could I put a receptacle in the box itself to house the joining of the eight separate wires and then have a single pigtail connect up in the receptacle in the ceiling. It seems it would be a lot less trouble to make sure one wire was up in the receptacle as I install it rather than eight, but I don’t know if it would be up to code to have that other receptacle in the box itself.

Here’s what I’m trying to do:


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#1 posted 02-17-2014 05:05 AM

One wire would be a much better solution than trying to stuff 8 feed wires plus the solid copper into a single wire nut for the hot and again for the neutral. That’s just asking for trouble. If in doubt, have an electrician make a wiring harness for you.

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#2 posted 02-17-2014 05:54 AM

Exactly. But I assume it isn’t copacetic to just have those connections floating around in the wood box even though there is a lot of room in there. I envision having maybe two receptacles housed in the box. Each would handle four of the lights. Those could join to the white and black in the ceiling each with their own wire.

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#3 posted 02-17-2014 12:20 PM

There should be only one pair of wires (plus the ground if applicable) going to the junction box in the ceiling. The 8 wires should be spliced together inside the lamp itself. Ideally, this would be within a metal box inside the wood cover, but this isn’t always possible. The important thing is that there must be no possibility of the splices coming loose. What I do when I have to splice inside my lamps is to solder and tape (or better yet, shrink tube) all connections, then seal them in place with hot melt glue. Where the final two wires exit the lamp to connect to the power, there needs to be a strain relief (it can be as simple as a knot in the wires inside the hot glue blob) so that pulling on the exposed wiring can’t disturb the connections.

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#4 posted 01-10-2015 10:55 PM

Use quick connectors in the fixture and bring 3 wires out. 1 Hot, 1 Neutral, 1 Ground. Yes Ground.
I have used these before. You can pick them up at any of the big box stores. They hold remarkably well, and you don’t need to mess with shrink wrap or tape.

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#5 posted 01-10-2015 10:58 PM

Wow I just realized this post is a year old. I assume you have found a solution by now.

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