I quit smoking tobacco on 1/21/14...but I still smoke

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02-16-2014 03:23 AM

After smoking tobacco for about 45 years, I quit on January 21st. I’ve quit 4 or 5 times since I started smoking in 1963. The first time, I quit for 4 years…but then I started driving a taxi in NYC…and that pushed me back to tobacco (I needed an old friend to ride around with me). I’m 64 now, and I really need to kick it…or just give up doing things that I like…surfing, breathing, living.
I have rolled my own cigarettes for the last 8 years. At first, it was more economical…but then I started to prefer them to factory cigs. I liked the procedure, and they are better for you…organic :-) I woke up on 1/21/14, and just decided not to roll one, and I haven’t had one since.
I’d like to say that I did it cold turkey, but I have an E cig…Logic…that I “smoke”
It’s like smoking, so I don’t even know if I quit. I get the nicotine, the vapor (smoke), and the E cig to hold.
Are these things as bad as tobacco? Did I trade one bad habit for another? My breathing has improved.
What do you think?

-- Steve--

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#1 posted 02-16-2014 03:26 AM

I quit smoking and started vaping just over a year ago. I feel 100 times better.

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#2 posted 02-16-2014 03:28 AM

Nicotine interferes with micro-circulation. Some surgeons will insist that a patient quits before performing surgery. I’m not sure what chemicals are present in e-cigs, but I think they must be less harmful that inhaling hot tar-laden smoke.

I’m a former smoker. I miss the cigs, but I don’t miss the addiction. I hated that “need” for a smoke.

One of my greatest pleasures was being alone in the morning with a crossword, coffee and a smoke.


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#3 posted 02-16-2014 03:32 AM

Which brand do you use? Are you now addicted to vaping? Is there a downside…besides cost?
I’m just worried about getting hooked to another bad habit.
100 times better sounds good. Are you still young? how long did you smoke?
Sorry for all the questions, but vaping is new to me.

-- Steve--

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#4 posted 02-16-2014 03:45 AM

all of us smokers can relate. coffee in the morning with a cig, playing facebook scrabble.
tobacco after a good meal, tobacco when you get in your car, tobacco after sex.
I won’t experience any of that anymore…unless I replace tobacco with an e-cig…and it’s not quite the same.
Anyway, i’ve embarked on this path, and i’m happy with it, as is my wife, family, and friends
I’m just gonna celebrate not smoking…and maybe enjoy an occasional second hand smoke
good luck to others that are quitting.

-- Steve--

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#5 posted 02-16-2014 05:38 AM

Right there with you Shopdog. I quit about 2 years ago, lapsed once or twice but overall good. Keep my sanity with the same brand of e-cig, Logic. Had the Blu cigs for a while but they are more expensive, generally hard to find and frankly not as satisfying. The logic are pretty satisfying, easy to find most of the time and cheaper. It is just trading one addiction for another, but at least it’s better. From my reading on it, your 100% better off health wise than smoking real cigarettes. Nicotine isn’t exactly a health tonic, but it’s not really all that bad for you either, it’s the tar and soot that gives you cancer. If you can wean yourself off them eventually you’d probably be better off, that’s my plan eventually. But your doing a good thing for you and yours by switching to the e-cigs.


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#6 posted 02-16-2014 06:34 PM

Good luck, I’ve been trying to quit tobacco in general, dipped mainly but smoked when i drank. I “quit” last month but still do it when i drink, if i didn’t drink then i probably wouldn’t have a problem quitting.

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#7 posted 02-16-2014 06:45 PM

I’ve been vaping for about a year now. The coughing and phlegm are gone, I still feel like I’m smoking, I enjoy a single cigarette after a nice spicy curry, but otherwise I don’t touch tobacco at all. I really enjoy the smoking part of smoking, but I get that with my e-fag without the congestion, wheezing and foul smelling living room.

I use only tobacco flavours. The nicotine is quite low…I’m all for it and several of my friends have now started vaping as well.

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#8 posted 02-16-2014 06:54 PM

Best of luck with it. I had a plan to quit over the course of a year & I’m off them full time for 4 yrs now.
1st I quit smoking in the car but smoked everywhere else
2nd 3 months later quit smoking at work as well.
3rd 3 months after that quit smoking in the house.
Finally, left the hardest one til last, quit when I was socialising.
Worked for me.

-- A family man has photos in his wallet where his money used to be.

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#9 posted 02-16-2014 06:59 PM

I used Chantix 7 years ago and never looked back. If you use this product make sure that you are in a good situation, because you get some really really bad dreams. I took it for 5 weeks and that was it. Not a nice ride but it did the job.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#10 posted 02-16-2014 08:28 PM

Thanks for the support.

Vaping really helped with the tobacco quitting, but I can’t help feeling that I’m still smoking.
Are these Logic e-cigs really relatively harmless? They have to be better than rolling my own.

I like to drink too, and would smoke more when I drink. Now that I don’t smoke, I guess that I’ll have to quit drinking too :-) I’ll be running low on bad habits.

@madts…my wife quit 5 years ago (on the same day as I did, but 5 years earlier) using chantix. I was away for 3 months, which made it easier for her. She said it was easy…that 1 day she woke up and didn’t want to smoke anymore. I tried chantix 2 years ago, for over a month…and that day never came when I didn’t want to smoke. I was waiting for the magic…no magic. I really didn’t want to quit, so I didn’t.

My wife recently had a cancerous tumor removed, and was confined to bed for weeks…and still I smoked in our apartment. I finally decided that I had to quit…if not for me…then for her. She has recovered, and now I will too.

-- Steve--

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#11 posted 02-16-2014 08:33 PM

Not a smoker, but I’ve read a bit about this. My guess: e-cigs are better for you than tobacco cigs, but I doubt they know all the risks yet of e-cigs—too new. We know that the effects of inhalants often take decades to appear. That said, you’re in a better place than you were.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#12 posted 02-17-2014 12:42 AM

I agree with everything that Charles has said.

I did a Search on them and it’s all the same thing. No one knows the potential Danger of e-cigs for sure.

Other than they do contain some Carcinogens that Cigarettes MIGHT NOT. Such as Ethylene Glycol (Anti Freeze) and Nitrosamines there’s not much FOR SURE to go on.

They do seem to agree that they are better for you than Regular Cigarettes. However the FDA ha ben involved in this for MANY years no and continues to “Study Them”. (What else is new?)

The impotent point being, however, as expressed by most of the Commenters. They HAVE gotten you off Regular Cigarettes.

I live in Canada and they are Banned for sale here. I THINK one of the reasons for that is, they are being sold over the WWW, anyone can Purchase them, there are many Companies that have jumped on the Band Wagon and there is NO Guarantee of the Quality of the Product you are purchasing or what they ACTUALLY Contain.

I downloaded a number of pieces of RELIABLE Info Sources on them.

BUT! From what I saw there is Nothing Conclusive on the Entire Topic. I’ll stick ONE in here that kind of wraps it all up.

-- Made In Ontario, CANADA

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#13 posted 02-17-2014 02:38 PM

I know that these e-cigs (logic) must have a downside (besides nicotine), but I didn’t want google it, and find out. Antifreeze…now that will come in handy with the weather we are experiencing in the northeast.
When it gets warmer out, I’ll have to kick these things.

-- Steve--

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#14 posted 02-17-2014 10:15 PM


I think the Anti Freeze only works for Cars. Well … some of them Smoke quite a bit also.

What The Hell am I talking about!! Must be those “Little Voices” again. They’re always trying to tell me what to do.

Better get back on the Meds, I guess. .......LOL…


-- Made In Ontario, CANADA

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#15 posted 02-18-2014 09:57 AM

I wasn’t going to chime in on this thread, but I feel compelled.

I started vaping about 9 months ago.
I used to smoke around 90g of black Gauloises hand-rolling tobacco a week.
I now smoke around 5g a week.
I am still addicted to nicotine, but I am gently weaning myself off it- pretty easy to do with vaping.

Like Ms Walker – I feel a lot better.
A lot.
I don’t wake up in the morning and cough my guts out.
I can walk up big hills without feeling too out of breath.
I feel a lot better.

I too was concerned as to what I was actually breathing in, so I did, and continue to do, masses of research.

It being so new, there’s a huge amount of mis-information out there. And, it must be said, a bunch of missing information too.

If anyone is thinking of switching, I would, without qualification, say “Yes. Do it. Do it today”.
But do your own research.
This is a valuable forum for such things.

Now, I must dispel this myth…

Such as Ethylene Glycol (Anti Freeze)

”Propylene glycol, which is not an “active ingredient” in e-cigarettes but a carrier in which the nicotine and flavoring are dissolved, is known as “nontoxic antifreeze”. Guess why. As Lake notes, it is approved by the FDA as a safe food ingredient. It is also used in various FDA-approved medications, including cough syrup and nasal sprays. Calling it “antifreeze” is a scare tactic aimed at clouding the issue. While it’s true that there is not much research on the effects of inhaling propylene glycol, a 2012 study found that, unlike tobacco smoke, e-cigarette vapor does not impair lung function in the short term.”

Propylene glycol, the primary ingredient in the electronic cigarette cartridge, may be a powerful deterrent against pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory diseases when vaporized and inhaled according to a study by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson. Decades before the e cigarette was invented, a study was conducted by Dr. Robertson of the University of Chicago’s Billings Hospital in 1942 on inhalation of vaporized propylene glycol in laboratory mice. A more in-depth article was printed in the 1942 issue of TIME Magazine,9171,932876,00.html for November 16th. “Dr. Robertson placed groups of mice in a chamber and sprayed its air first with propylene glycol, then with influenza virus. All the mice lived. Then he sprayed the chamber with virus alone. All the mice died.”

The researchers also found that “the propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide. One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would—within a few seconds—kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot.”

PG (propylene glycol) is commonly used in the medical profession for asthma inhalers and intravenous medicines. I bought a bottle of sno-cone liquid the other day and guess what is on the label? Wait for it … propylene glycol! The kids are already getting it. Yes, I’m a label reader. It’s probably used as a thickening agent and it is in some salad dressings. I can just picture someone in a restaurant complaining that “Propylene glycol is in those e-cigs! That’s a component of anti-freeze!”, while he pours salad dressing on his lettuce…

PG (propylene glycol) is used in asthma inhalers and the nebulizers used by lung transplant patients. Any sources that say it ‘may be unsafe to inhale’ would need to explain why it is licensed for inhalable medicines and injectable medicines by all authorities, and licensed for long-term high-volume inhalation under all employee health regulations (it is the main ingredient in theatre/disco fog), and without incident for 70 years.


There’s a huge amount of information, links to studies etc etc to be found here.

And, of course, you can easily purchase “Pure VG” (vegetable glycerine) liquids which contain no propylene glycol.

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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