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Forum topic by secretgarden posted 02-15-2014 12:56 PM 822 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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secretgarden

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02-15-2014 12:56 PM

I’ve read a few entries but still remain unsure; LED pot lights vs T-8’s. I have 6 fixtures of 4 bulb T12’s spread over a 20×20 ft garage and would like to free up the ceiling for duct work. I have numerous spot lights including some halogen which gave me the added advantage of a suntan after I stood toooooo close to the bulbs. The cost is high with LED pot lights, but if they improve the lighting I don’t care about the cost as long as there is a great improvement.

Has anyone used tract lighting?


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NoLongerHere

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#1 posted 02-15-2014 02:23 PM

Pot lights? better watch out for those black helicopters!

how tall is your ceiling in this little 20×20 garage woodshop? is the ductwork to heat the garage on the other side?

reason I ask is, ceiling height is so important when working with wood. adding ductwork won’t do much to heat the shop and will just take up room and inhibit the light you have.

I like the fixtures you have. what’s wrong with them? I have the same set up.

I have a hard time believing T12s are going to be banned. even if they were, you could buy a couple of boxes and store them. You’ll be dead or gone before it matters.
The cost of changing them out doesn’t make sense to me, yet. but like you, I’ve considered it.

I like to think that the best way for something to be environmentally friendly and all that PC stuff is to live out it’s life and get the most use of it before having to reinvest and replace it. but that’s another story.

Track lights? those are usually designed for accenting things like artwork or a hallway floor, etc. I’d only consider using those if I had a bunch for free. They will collect dust and spider webs, they get hot and the bulbs ain’t cheap.

But if you had a wall of antique tools and hand planes or a giant blow up picture of yourself sky diving on the wall, yea….track lights might be cool.

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tefinn

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#2 posted 02-15-2014 03:01 PM

secretgarden – For general lighting you’ll be better off with the T8 fixtures. The pot lights are better suited for spot lighting or areas where you can’t place a tube fixture.

reedwood – It’s already too late to stock up on T12 tubes. With the exception of certain specialty T12 sizes, they were phased out in 2012. Unless you find a store that didn’t completely sell out, all the 4 and 8 foot tubes are gone. They can’t even be legally imported.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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CharlesA

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#3 posted 02-15-2014 03:33 PM

In Louisville you can find T12 bulbs at the Habitat Re-Store (most of them used, but some NOS from places that have converted).

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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NoLongerHere

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#4 posted 02-15-2014 03:53 PM

wow, I knew the 100s and 75s were done but wasn’t aware the T12s were. I just bought a box of 10 or 12 at Menards last weekend.

Good thing. Think of all that carbon I would’ve burned….
making the carbon soaked money to buy the new and improved GE fixtures, stopping the shrinking carbon footprint life span of a paid for installed and running product, burning gas in my big gas guzzling van to pick up these foreign made light fixtures, from the evil big box store that profits from all that carbon made, shipping products from over seas.

And then, possibly contributing to the land fills with good fixtures and mercury filled bulbs. ( I’d recycle them)

Maybe I’m just old and stuck in my ol’ ways but for some reason, none of this makes sense.

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#5 posted 02-15-2014 04:12 PM

It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me either. The LED’s last forever but cost mega $ and have a weird color light. The CFL’s last a long time, cost less than LED’s, but have to be recycled because of the mercury. How many people are going to just toss them rather than spend the time and effort to recycle. Now all that mercury goes into the landfill and environment. That just wiped out any benefits from carbon saving.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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redSLED

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#6 posted 02-15-2014 08:18 PM

I’m in a 1-car garage workshop, and put up 8 halogen pot lights (some 50w, some 75w) – because I do not like florescent lighting. I find the lighting to be both ample and pleasing to work within. I will attempt to post a photo, but have to first clean up the shop a bit . . .

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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CharlesA

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#7 posted 02-15-2014 08:25 PM

I don’t know much about the specifics of phasing out T12s, but I do know that T8s are superior in every respect if your’re putting in new fixtures. I am a proponent of phasing out the inefficient incandescents. I like LED bulbs better than the CFLs for color and appearance, and the prices are dropping consistently. Few things are as inefficient as the traditional incandescent bulb.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#8 posted 02-15-2014 08:25 PM

Googled pic for you – looks better than long tube florescent lighting IMO. Needs a few more lights though to minimize the dark areas:

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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#9 posted 02-15-2014 10:35 PM

I was just in HD on 2/11/14 looking for T-5 fixtures and bulbs to figure out if I wanted to go that route or with LEDs. They still had plenty of T-12 bulbs in stock, didn’t really take a look as to which sizes as that’s what I’m planning on getting rid of in both my shop and garage. I still have half a box of new 4’ T-12s too.

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