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Forum topic by naturedog posted 02-13-2014 06:21 PM 845 views 1 time favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-13-2014 06:21 PM

Topic tags/keywords: dust collector dust collection

I am in the process of building a shop. I have an area 14’ x 40’ that is finished. with a closet off the back that is 8’x8’ . my plan is to put dust collection in the closet to help with sound. I was thinking of running 6” PVC pip straight across the shop along one wall and come down/over to middle. with 4” take off. I was not sure if there is a good brand of blast gates that you could glue to pvc? and if they have 4” pvc nipples to transition to 4” flex to the machine? from my understanding (correct me if im wrong) I need to run a copper wire on the inside of the pvc pipe connecting it to the dust collector (which is grounded ) to just past the gate coming out before the gate ? any advise and links to where to buy the adapters/ gates would be wonderful.

-- Russ


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#1 posted 02-13-2014 06:53 PM

You didn’t say what DC you will have, just make sure it’s big enough to handle 6” ducting. Then try to run 6” all the way to the machine, even if you have to mod the machine’s port.Getting anything to fit DC ductwork is a crapshoot, and you will be inventing connections as you go. Woodcraft did have a coupling that got from 4” PVC to 4” flex, but you can do it your self with a heat gun and PVC coupling (heat the flex and force it into the coupling). I wouldn’t glue anything, but if you not going to make your own blast gates Clearview has some nice ones that fit 6” PVC. Lastly, skip the grounding, there just isn’t a reason to do it (except maybe personal comfort). All it will do is make your life miserable when you make changes to the system (and you WILL make changes, eventually). Be sure to consider any air return you any need from the closet to the shop. All of this is just my opinion, of course.

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#2 posted 02-13-2014 08:05 PM

It’s a grizzly 3hp DC with a 6” intake, that currently has a double 4” Y on it. I didn’t think about needing ventilation into the closet from the shop, and now wonder if I should just put the DC in the corner thus keeping the dust out of the closet if I’m going to need a way for air to return to the shop area.

Is there any need to put a clean-out in the end of the main 6” run or should I end with a radius 90 going to a machine?

Also with regards to the grounding I wondered how many people dont ground there system and what is the downside of not grounding?

-- Russ

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#3 posted 02-13-2014 09:15 PM

I’ve had DC for about 15 years, and have never had a clog in the pipes, though I’ve had a few ports at the machine get clogged. I see no need of having a clean out, and would terminate going into a machine. I also see no downside to not having a ground wire, only upside. I have no idea of how many do/don’t ground, but the myth of needing grounding has been debunked in several reputable places, including Myth Busters. I suspect more folks don’t ground than do. My first system was grounded, and that went away with the first set of changes I made. Some folks ground to eliminate static shock, and I guess if you live in an area where it’s worse that might be something to consider. But it’s just as easy to avoid touching the pipes during the times of year when it’s worse (winter). I’m not sure what advantage the closet offers you with the DC, I’d keep it in the shop. A lot of folks want to mitigate the noise, always a good thing. But in my case when the DC is running so is something else that’s real noisy….so I have to wear hearing protection anyway.

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#4 posted 02-13-2014 10:00 PM

I used 6 inch PVC and have had no, zero problems with static. I built my own blast gates, its not hard.
I used plexiglass and phenolic because that is what I had on hand. The way I did it was to use the belled end of the pipe as a coupling between the blast gate and the pipe. I cut the bell twice so only one belled end was needed per blast gate.
I used little screws from the inside to fasten the belled stub end to the phenolic body.
The flexible hose I bought from Penn Industries would fit over the 6 inch pipe. However, I found it a lot easier to install if I cut several coils of the reinforcing wire out first.

I found an inter tube the correct size to just fit over the pipe, kind of takes the place of a union in plumbing.

-- Correlation is not causation but I did loose my Doctor !!!

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#5 posted 02-13-2014 11:24 PM

What size inner tube was that 49er? I’m looking for one that will fit 8” diameter duct work.

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#6 posted 02-14-2014 01:38 AM

Alan, I’ll have to look tomorrow. That tube fit tight on 6” , I don’t think you could get it on 8”.

-- Correlation is not causation but I did loose my Doctor !!!

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