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Forum topic by Pendragon1998 posted 02-10-2014 05:58 AM 975 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Pendragon1998

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02-10-2014 05:58 AM

I’m pretty new at all of this, so I thought I might want to keep all my stupid questions in a single Thread of Shame. I’m trying to learn, so take pity on me! (I’m sure there will be more than just this one.) lol

Today’s stupid question: I was very kindly gifted a new Stanley Sweetheart no. 4 plane for Christmas, which is probably more plane than I can handle or deserve at this early stage in my woodworking learning curve. Anyway, I’m finding that when I try to adjust the depth adjustment knob, sometimes the knob turns on its threaded rod instead of the rod turning. The knob’s fallen off a couple times. Also, there’s a fair bit of slack when you switch from pushing the iron out to pulling it in, almost a full turn before the iron starts moving in the new direction. Am I doing something stupid (maybe not keeping the proper tension on the lever cap screw)?


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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#1 posted 02-10-2014 10:59 AM

Hey, Pendra, nice plane.

The slack in the depth adjuster is backlash, and is common and normal. That said, when setting depth (after a sharpening session, for example) the adjuster should be tracking and engaged towards setting a longer iron when the plane is ready to use. Hope that makes sense. In other words, not a ‘whoops, too deep, I’ll back it off’ but a ‘one half-turn further and it’s ready to go.’

That the knob and rod separate is bogus; don’t have a suggestion on that.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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Pendragon1998

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#2 posted 02-10-2014 04:15 PM

Smitty,
Just to make sure I’m getting you – as I understand it, I’m supposed to be starting with the blade retracted enough to not make any contact with the wood, then slowly ease it down a little at a time until it’s kissing the wood correctly – as opposed to starting with the blade already exposed, possibly too far?

About the knob – yeah, I’m not sure what’s going on unless I’ve got the lever cap screw too tight and I’m fighting the tension when I try to adjust. I wondered if it might be some sort of odd ‘feature’ to prevent the plane iron from being adjusted against too much tension, but I really have no idea. Maybe someone else can suggest what I’m doing wrong?

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Tim

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#3 posted 02-10-2014 07:42 PM

Yes Pendragon, but also if you need to retract the iron a little bit, after you’ve retracted it, rotate the adjusting knob all the way back the other way to remove the backlash just so it would be about to advance the iron again. That way the iron will maintain it’s setting and not slip on you.

If the knob is falling off that sounds like a defect to me. I’d consider returning it.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#4 posted 02-10-2014 07:45 PM

Your recap looks right, and Tim also nailed it!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#5 posted 02-11-2014 02:08 AM

about the only thing I can add is call Stanley. Maybe they will send a new knob piece. It shouldn’t be loose. You may have to loosen the cap screw some, but you should be able to tell if you need to crank it to hard.

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runswithscissors

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#6 posted 02-14-2014 06:05 AM

You could put a dab of medium strength thread locker (blue, I think) on the threads before putting the knob back on. You could also tighten the knob on the screw as much as possible, but it’s hard to grip the screw solidly without messing up the threads.

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Pendragon1998

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#7 posted 02-16-2014 04:29 AM

I went ahead a put a drop of blue loctite on there to see if it would help. I’ll work with it and see how it goes. Thanks!

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