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Forum topic by BubingaBill posted 02-09-2014 07:31 PM 1409 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BubingaBill

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02-09-2014 07:31 PM

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Hi again gang. I have been working hard on my next case. I guess a bit too hard as I think I killed the motor on my table saw. An old chraftsman I got off CL back in the summer. It started running slow and then just wouldnt start. The motor only buzzed until the breaker pops. I took it appart and the bearings by the pulley were all clogged. i cleand and greased them and put everything back together. It ran again but made allot of buzzing noises. Then started leaking oil from the capacitor. I can still turn the shaft freely by hand but she wont run without my spinning the shaft first. I know it now needs a new capacitor and lord knows what else. Has any one had any experience with this type of motor? Thetable saw is a common 113.298720 and the original motor #113.12173.
I dont know if I should waste my time trying to repair it or replace it. I have saved up some money I was going to spand on duct work for my dust collector and it would be a shame if I had to put it towards a motor. Any feedback would be great!!
Thanks,
Bill

-- Measure twice and try not to cut your thumbs off!


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bbc557ci

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#1 posted 02-09-2014 08:22 PM

I bought a similar C’man TS a couple of summers ago for $25.00….cheap. Needed a motor so I put a WTB add on Craigslist, got a like new 1 hp motor for $40.00. Just a thought.

Sounds like a capacitor

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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#2 posted 02-09-2014 08:37 PM

It does sound like your capacitor is bleeding and therefore dud.I cannot say however there are no other problems.I would still buy a new capacitor and try it ,as they are not really very expensive.Alistair hope things work out fine.

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#3 posted 02-09-2014 08:53 PM

You may as well replace the bearings too, they are not expensive.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#4 posted 02-09-2014 09:19 PM

I’d replace the capacitor. They’re cheap enough. Then if it runs, determine if you need the bearings as well. If it still doesn’t run you didn’t waste the time and money on the bearings. If you decide to replace the motor, they’re all over CL. You could even look for another 113 saw to strip parts from.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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BubingaBill

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#5 posted 02-09-2014 09:23 PM

All great ideas. Thank you!

-- Measure twice and try not to cut your thumbs off!

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#6 posted 02-10-2014 04:48 AM

Hi Bill
That sounds like the starter windings or switch are the problem blowing the capacitor.
If you can get someone to check it out for cheap it maybe worth while ,other then that look for a new /used motor because they are priced where it is not worthwhile to repair the motor .

-- Kiefer https://www.youtube.com/user/woodkiefer1/videos

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#7 posted 02-10-2014 02:34 PM

Hi Kiefer,
I’m thinking I blew the capacitor while trying to start the motor. I don’t have a repair shop anywhere near me that I can turn to. I do have a friend that used to rebuild these until that shop closed up. I will give him a shout. I did order a new capacitor from Ebay. I should have it Thursday and installing is very easy. I will just bench test it before installing it. This sucker is heavy!! I will keep an eye out for a used one and also I will try posting a want ad on CL and see what I find.
Thanks again!!

-- Measure twice and try not to cut your thumbs off!

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dhazelton

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#8 posted 02-10-2014 02:45 PM

Once you replace the capacitor you should be good to go. When you cleaned and repacked the bearings did they feel notchy when you turned the inner race or smooth? If they felt smooth leave them alone.

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BubingaBill

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#9 posted 02-10-2014 02:51 PM

The “bearings” were not what I had expected. It was just a metal sleeve where I was expecting ball bearings. Yes the inside was scored but the rest looked fine. No damage that I could see on the shaft.

-- Measure twice and try not to cut your thumbs off!

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dhazelton

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#10 posted 02-11-2014 02:20 PM

Only very old motors had brass sleeves and no bearings. You don’t have little oil cups above the shaft ends, do you? You must have sealed bearings so you really can’t service them. If you turn the motor shaft and don’t feel any play or resistance they may be fine.

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#11 posted 02-11-2014 02:35 PM

This is the original motor for this saw (circa 1983??) and it has oil fill ports above the bearings on both ends. The sleeve appears to be steel but I’m positive it’s not brass. I will have the new capacitor Thursday and I will bench test it as soon as I get home from work. I’m like a kid waiting for Santa!!
But I just want to get back to work! I need to build a spline jig for my latest case.
“StudioFormaat” just posted one in projects that looks like ART!!
Knowing my list of materials, mine will not.

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dhazelton

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#12 posted 02-12-2014 02:07 PM

Make sure you use oil made for electric motors, not any old oil. I think it’s straight 20 weight, not positive.

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BubingaBill

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#13 posted 02-12-2014 02:11 PM

Great point. I will hit the HD on the way home from work and pick some up. Any idea on a brand name?

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#14 posted 02-13-2014 12:18 AM

I picked some up at a plumbing supply place as it was for furnace motors. I don’t think HD has any as I looked. Find a motor place or plumbing HVAC supply house. 3 in 1 is too thin. In a pinch I guess non detergent motor oil, but find the right stuff.

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