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Surfdad95

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02-09-2014 01:20 PM

Hello, This is my first post ever on Lumberjocks. I know there are a lot of professionals on this site so I hope someone could help me. A friend of mine recently gave me an old S#%rs contractors table saw # 113.298762 which I have rebuilt from top to bottom, new bearings for everything. My question is, There is no splitter or wood knife that came with it. The blade guard assembly seems to have a fork like part which looks like it would slide into a locking or bolt down assembly, but I only have what the manual calls a support guard. Are the knifes or splitters absolutely necessary? Or, do some people run this model saw without one? I Know its much safer to have one. What do you think.
Thanks, Surfdad95

-- Surfdad95


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The Box Whisperer

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#1 posted 02-09-2014 01:32 PM

If you cant find a proper riving knife, I would look into a microjig splitter, assuming you can make or buy a zero clearance plate.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=65138&cat=1,41080,51225

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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bondogaposis

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#2 posted 02-09-2014 02:03 PM

I have a saw similar to that. The stock guard that comes with that is a real pain to put on and remove. You have to remove it every time you make a non through cut, dado, etc.. Mine is permanently removed. Make you own ZCI and get the microjig splitter like the Box Whisperer has said. They work well and I also use feather boards as another insurance against kick backs. Probably the best upgrade for that saw will be an aftermarket fence. I put a Delta T2 on mine and it has greatly improved the performance.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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CrazeeTxn

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#3 posted 02-09-2014 02:23 PM

Agreed. The stock guard is a PITA. Useful at times, but not enough times for me to keep it in place. I like the idea of the micro splitters. Anything you can do to improve safety without it is a huge plus.

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bigblockyeti

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#4 posted 02-09-2014 02:41 PM

Lots of people run their tablesaw without any kind of guard/splitter/riving knife and get away with it unscathed, some aren’t so lucky. I think you’ll find on this forum many people are going to recommend something, despite being a real PITA sometimes. The first time your hand hits a spinning blade, the resulting damage, in cost alone (never mind long term effects) could easily get you the best in safety that money could buy!

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SCOTSMAN

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#5 posted 02-09-2014 02:42 PM

ON my saw current I made a new riving knife from and older circular saw blade.
First off I marked it out with a felt tipped marker to a good shape,then cut that slowly to shape with a diamond blade on a four inch hand angled grinder.I cut it roughly to shape then drilled two holes in the centre where the groove was to be cut top hole and bottom hole then cut out theremainder to fix it to the saw.Then after a while with the grinder small makita type I took my time and cut it pretty well to shape.I then finished off with the normal bench grinder to finish it off then sanded with a rough grit sandpaper to get fully even. I would reccommend this if you can do it especially if your stuck. I now have two riving knives one smaller for smaller blades and one bigger for bigger blades. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Monte Pittman

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#6 posted 02-09-2014 03:31 PM

It’s not necessary, but a good idea if you aren’t comfortable yet with working with the saw. That being said, I virtually never use one because of the type of material i am usually cutting.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Surfdad95

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#7 posted 02-09-2014 04:11 PM

Thanks for the help and ideas everyone. I will look into what it would take to make a ZCI and purchase the Micro splitters. I already have my 80/20 on order for my new fence system. I was going to buy the aftermarket fence but I already have a couple hundred bucks into this project. The price I got it for was great (free), but by the time I am done, I will have 500 bucks or so into it. I will say, with the new motor & arbor bearings and segmented belt, this thing sounds SMOOOOOTH! I am currently working on some drop rollers so it will be more mobile, it’s a heavy beast. Any ideas for rollers would help also.

-- Surfdad95

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bbc557ci

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#8 posted 02-09-2014 04:12 PM

A splitter, at least, is a good thing to have and use. I made one out of mild steel for my Unisaw. It’s about .015 less than the width of the blade in my saw. Takes some time but it’s worth the time and effort.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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