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333 days ago |
I recently got a plane on ebay that is dimensionally accurate match for a Stanley #6 Fore plane. It has a Sweet Heart iron, and the frog, lever cap, chip breaker are the same as my #4 Sweet Heart. But there is no ‘Bailey’ lettering, no ‘no. 6’, which I would expect to find on any Stanley of that generation. I’m not unhappy with it; sole is sound and true, no cracks, etc. I will have to lap it a bit, but not a lot, so a good working plane with much higher quality than Groz or Anant, and infinitely lower price than a LN, Veritas, etc. I’m just wondering if anyone out there can explain the lack of lettering. -- ShopCat |
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333 days ago |
While I’m not a collector of Stanley planes, I own & use about a dozen of them. I’ve never seen one that does not say Stanley or Bailey on the bed and a number as well. If I knew how to add a link here I would, but if you Google “Patrick’s Blood and Gore” you’ll get to an excellent site on Stanley planes & that may help you. -- Accuracy is not in your power tool, it's in you |
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333 days ago |
You probably have a “put together” plane. Sounds like the base is from a generic plane which could have been made by Stanley. Out of curiousity, You say a #6, but a #6 should have a 2 1/2 inch iron and a #4 has a 2 inch iron. Did I mis-understand? If it works don’t concern yourself about it. The mouth is the most important part of the base. If it is flat it will work just fine. -- Thos. Angle |
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333 days ago |
Ah, sorry my mistake. I should have said the iron is stamped Sweet Heart, and the frog, cap, chipper are a match for my #4. That is what sort of confuses me. I started out guessing it is some form of composit, but with the iron for a #6, plus the frog it says the parts are Stanley parts. If it is an after market sole, it had to have been cast for the Sweet Heart frog, which is different and beefier than the regular Bailey frog on my #5. So, why would someone put a more expensive blade and frog on a cheaper sole? If it is cheaper that is; and yeah, I know that maybe they just happened to have the parts in the right place right time. I’ve certainly done things that make less sense with spare parts. This thing just looks like it is supposed to be together this way. But I doubt that Stanley wouldn’t put their name on it. Which gets me to where I am now. -- ShopCat |
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333 days ago |
From my understanding, ( note: not gospel, just gossip) Stanley built and supplied planes for other labels, like early Sears Craftsman, and Wards Lakeside, and if I remember correctly, Master Mechanic. Most of these were labeled as Craftsman etc., but some of the labeling was limited to the lever cap and handles. Lot’s of fun eh? Q -- I don't make sawdust...I produce vast quantities of "Micro Mulch." |
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333 days ago |
Side note, Sears part numbers also indicate the manufacturer. For example a hand plane that has part number 107-##### was manufactured by Millers Falls or Dunlap, Planes with part numbers 187-#### were manufactured by Stanley for Sears. I see Sears Craftsman planes still in the box sell on E-bay for substantially less than the Stanley counterpart… Here’s the web page http://www.owwm.com/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx?sort=1 link Q -- I don't make sawdust...I produce vast quantities of "Micro Mulch." |
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333 days ago |
Thanks all. Despite the mixed mode, it shaves wood ever so finely. For $38 plus some lapping time, still a nice plane. -- ShopCat |
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167 days ago |
Hey guys!!!!! I have several Stanleys that have the sweet heart logo. I do understand that these blades are I do love the old Stanleys. I just threw out a new #4 because the chip breaker was defective. If you have an old Stanley, take good care of it and treat it with the respect it deserves. -- The wood is good. |
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167 days ago |
I have an old stanley that doesn’t say Stanley or Bailey on the body. It is a No 5 and it is around 100 years old. I think it says No 5 on it. I’m not too sure. I don’t use it as I have 3 No 5s so I haven’t looked at it in a while. |
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