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Forum topic by Charlie75 posted 02-05-2014 11:39 PM 1375 views 1 time favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Charlie75

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02-05-2014 11:39 PM

I have a problem with my Chraftsman 14” band saw blade tracking. When the blade gullet, as Carter recommends, is in the center of the top wheel the blade is almost running off the lower wheel.

Any suggestions?

Charlie

-- Charlie75, Alto


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screwikea

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#1 posted 02-05-2014 11:42 PM

What’s the model number on your saw? You may have a case where you actually need to adjust something they suggest you not.

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#2 posted 02-05-2014 11:50 PM

This video by Alex Snodgrass is the best piece I’ve seen on setting up a bandsaw: http://youtu.be/wGbZqWac0jU

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#3 posted 02-05-2014 11:50 PM

Your blade tension needs adjustment. Tighten or loosen I can’t say, but do both slowly and watch what happens. Are your tires in good shape?

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Charlie75

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#4 posted 02-06-2014 12:50 AM

screwikea, the model # is 124.323607. I have been searching for any hints on adjusting but come up empty.

CharlesA – I have seen that video many times. I will watch it again in case I missed something.

dhazelton- I had not considered the possibility of a tension problem. I might try that tomorrow.

I might mention that I have a Carter Stabilizer installed on this saw. The saw seems to cut ok but I am a bit nervous about the blade running so close to the outside edge of the lower wheel.

-- Charlie75, Alto

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woodchuckerNJ

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#5 posted 02-06-2014 01:27 AM

Well, I would read how to tune up a bandsaw.

There’s a lot to do. Too really get it right, the wheels must be co-planar.
Then you can start to tune the rest up.
I had to remove the pins on my riser block on a delta to get that to happen. The riser block kept mis-aligning the wheels.

Also make sure your wheels are true. Mine were not. I bought an American made delta and was quite disappointed with it’s setup. I fixed it all and it runs real nice.

-- Jeff NJ

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Charlie75

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#6 posted 02-06-2014 01:32 AM

Thanks Jeff. I have wondered about the co-planer thing. Can anyone point me to directions for this.

Charlie

-- Charlie75, Alto

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Halc

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#7 posted 02-06-2014 01:54 AM

I have the Grizzly G0457 and on P. 49 of the manual it describes a method for checking for coplanar wheels. You can download the manual at Grizzly.com.

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tefinn

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#8 posted 02-06-2014 02:10 AM

Charlie75, are you sure that’s the correct model #? I can’t find anything on it at all.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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#9 posted 02-06-2014 02:17 AM

Here’s a couple of links that explains a bandsaw tune-up:

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/coplanar-bandsaw-wheels-2.aspx

http://www.woodcraft.com/Articles/Articles.aspx?articleid=223

http://www.ehow.com/video_4950952_tune-up-band-saw.html

Basically you need a long straight edge ( even a level will do),put it against the top and bottom wheels.(remove the blade first)
Adjust the top wheel by turning the tilt knob until it touches the straight edge in two spots.
Now if the bottom wheel is co-planer with the top wheel ,the straight edge will also touch the bottom wheel in two spots (just like the top wheel) .if the bottom wheel is too far back,you’ll need to pull the wheel out,put a washer on the shaft ,and put the wheel back on,repeat by adding more washers until the bottom wheel contacts the straight edge in two spots.
If the top wheel is too far back you’ll need to do the same thing by adding spacers/washers until both wheels are in the same plane which means they contact the straight edge in 4 spots.
I hope the brief explanation made sense.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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Charlie75

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#10 posted 02-06-2014 02:28 AM

tefinn- I added one two many 3’s. The correct number is 124.32607. Some say this saw is a Rikon clone. Don’t remember the number.

Here is a link to this saw. I have the owners manual and I don’t find any reference to co-planing.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-14-inch-band-saw/p-00932607000P?prdNo=26&blockNo=26&blockType=G26

How this helps.

Charlie

-- Charlie75, Alto

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tefinn

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#11 posted 02-06-2014 02:58 AM

Having the wheels co-planer just means that the upper and lower wheels are in alignment with each other. Your saw should have a blade tracking adjustment. I don’t believe there is any adjustment for the individual wheels. If the blade is tensioned properly and the tracking adjustment is correct the blade should track in the approximate center of both wheels. Might take some trial and error to get it.

I’m guessing the saw is relatively new, if it’s not you may have a bad bearing on one or both of the wheels. One of the Craftsman band saws has a problem with the wheel bearings going bad. Don’t remember which one it is though.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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Charlie75

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#12 posted 02-06-2014 11:05 AM

Tom, thanks for your reply. The saw was new about 18 months ago. I’m not sure but I think there might be a little adjustment on the lower wheel because the shaft from that wheel protrudes through the back of the saw. There are 4, what appear to be, set screws that hold this shaft in place. I’m sure if I want to mess with that at least until I have tried the tensioning thing. I will also check those bearings too.

Charlie

-- Charlie75, Alto

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dhazelton

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#13 posted 02-06-2014 01:39 PM

To check if your wheels are on the same plane take a long steel ruler or some other type of straightedge and put it against the face of both wheels toward the center. The ruler should touch the tops and bottoms of both wheels with no gaps. If one wheel sticks out farther than the other you may have to shim the other wheel out with a thin washer of some kind (I bought a small box of thin copper washers at Harbor Freight). But I still think you just need to adjust your blade tension – if you’ve been using it for 18 months the tires could be wearing or the blade stretched a touch or the tension spring relaxed a bit. No big deal. Every time you change blades you need to adjust.

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#14 posted 02-06-2014 01:53 PM

Your wheels are not co-planar.
Check the alignement

-- Bert

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distrbd

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#15 posted 02-06-2014 03:02 PM

forget it.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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