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felty88

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02-05-2014 02:34 AM

I am getting more into using hand planes and I cant really afford to buy new planes most of the time especially for specialty planes that I wont be using much so I’ve been looking into buying vintage planes to restore but I don’t know what brands are quality other than Stanley. What other brands would you consider purchasing?


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#1 posted 02-05-2014 02:48 AM

Lets see

Millers Falls is very good, as long as it is before the type 4-5. Aka, before the 900s came out.

Sargent tool co. were quite good, too.

IF you can find them: Ohio Tool Co. and Union tool Co. made some good ones.

Some made planes for Wards, like Stanley.

Some made planes for sears, and they were sold as Dunlap brand. This was BEFORE the Craftsman brand came out. There was also a Fulton brand, usually made by Sargent, for Sears.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#2 posted 02-05-2014 02:54 AM

Also look for Record, a British company. And English Stanley’s ( they look the same as American stanley’s)

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#3 posted 02-05-2014 02:59 AM

Then there’s Winchester, Keen Kutter, Diamond Edge and Vaughn-Bushnell. All kinds…

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#4 posted 02-05-2014 03:01 AM

+1 to record

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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felty88

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#5 posted 02-05-2014 03:04 AM

What about Union, I saw a union jointer plane not too long ago for pretty cheap and almost bought it but didnt because if I didnt know anything about it.

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#6 posted 02-05-2014 03:09 AM

They can all be made to work. Some command a higher price because of “collector” value.
Grab one, sharpen the blade, learn to use it and welcome to the slippery slope.

Need help? call me.

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bandit571

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#7 posted 02-05-2014 03:09 AM

Union was good enough that Stanley HAD to buy them out, about 1920 or so, then Stanley even used all the parts from the Union plant.

Think I MIGHT still have one Union made plane around. Made for Diamond Edge Brand. A DE6c

About 18” long, more of a Fore plane, but I use it like a Jointer.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#8 posted 02-05-2014 06:11 AM

One thing I’ve learned quickly is you can have some of the highest quality tools out there if you are willing to do some work. I purchased over 45 handplanes this past Saturday for under 60 dollars. At first glance mostnwould guess I got a pile of parts and that they saw me coming…lol. Well these were some of the best wood planes overall I have laid my hands on. Majority Stanley Bailey and other than a thick coat of dust and dirt there was 20 plus of them that basicly needed cleaning. Another 10 were good planes and I can have them up and working fine with parts I have. To buy like quality new would of cost a small fortune. I found a nice Miller Falls 14 that appeared to have a restoration in past 3 or 4 years. Also a shaiple Diamond Edge that was very nice and good to go once cleaned.

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#9 posted 02-05-2014 12:57 PM

Wards Master, Craftsman, Fulton, Ohio Tools, Shelton, New York Tool, Vaughan & Bushnell, Upton, and so many more. There were a lot of re-sellers who had one of the major manufacturer stamp their name on a plane that was/is identical to the real one.

Learn to know a good plane when you see it. Also note, most manufactures also made a second and maybe a third line that was not so good. Many also got worse as time went on. The earlier models (pre WWII) are typically the best.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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Arminius

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#10 posted 02-05-2014 01:08 PM

It is a sad reflection on what has happened to the quality of everyday tools that it is actually sort of hard to find a vintage plane pre-1930 that isn’t good. There were a few, as DonW says, but the vast majority of what has survived puts the NIB stuff available in big box stores to shame.

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felty88

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#11 posted 02-05-2014 01:22 PM

Yea I knew that post WWII stuff was basically junk. Thank you all for your input, it really helps open up my options

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Don W

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#12 posted 02-05-2014 01:28 PM

Well,,,,,I didn’t say ALL post war stuff was junk, and I don’t agree with that. Although some will disagree with me, most Stanley’s up to 1967 (type 20) were still reasonable users. They may take a bit more tuning, but not much more. I personally don’t care for the nickel coating, but that doesn’t affect performance.

And that is why we’re back to learning to tell a good plane when you hold it. After you restore a Handyman (and everyone should for practice) you’ll find all the things to look for.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#13 posted 02-05-2014 07:36 PM

I refuse to go to Walmart or box stores for tools, furniture and an entire list of items. While we are at a point in this country where we produce very little we have in the past produced the best of the best when it comes to tools, furniture, and a whole list of other items. Unfortunatley there has been no one to date able to put together a vintage superstore where you can go purchase vintage convienantly and economically but that will change as time goes on. The idea that items are antique and collector items have drove pricing up but realisticly it has came down quite a bit from the 90s on a huge amount of items. Donating my families income to Walmart because I am too lazy to search out what is best for my family to me is not an option.. I get sick every time I drive by that store that has done very little to our local communities except bring communities down. Good news we are finally making things in America again but not sure the damage done can ever be reversed.

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