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02-04-2014 08:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane joining shaping

I’ve been puttering around in the shop, but mostly doing “armchair woodworking”, trying to keep my bandages clean. So I re-read through Marc Spagnuolo’s Hybrid Woodworking and then several reviews on planes, chisels, saws, and sharpening. I’ve been thinking about this for a while, even picked up a couple of card scrapers and burnisher on sale (haven’t used them yet).

So I rummaged through the shop, looking in boxes unopened since who knows when. I found a decent set of chisels and some Arkansas oil stones from decades ago, when I had money. I used to have some planes (Record, I think, smooth, plow and rabbet) but seems one of my son-in-laws made off with them. Probably sold them to buy video games. I found a Nicholson rasp, probably 40 years old, still works well. No good saws, of course.

I’ve been cutting mortices with a plunge router, tenons with an old Delta tenon jig on the table saw. Almost always cut the tenons too tight and have to tweak them. So I might be tempted to ease over to the quiet side a bit, and invest in a (gulp!) plane.

Not a plain plane, but a shoulder, or block, or block rabbet, or something. Or maybe some really good rasps would be better. I have about $200, saved up by not getting haircuts, and would welcome free advice about how to invest it.

Thanks for your comments.


-- What's a vibrant young guy like me doing in a broken down old body like this?

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#1 posted 02-04-2014 08:57 PM

well, if you like flea markets and antique shops, and don’t mind restoring vintage tools, then think vintage tools. But be fore warned. IF you like it, its a slippery slope.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. -

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#2 posted 02-05-2014 05:05 AM

I love how you saved up your money!

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#3 posted 02-05-2014 06:50 AM

I’ve been cutting my own hair since 1991, woodworking since 2013. If I hadn’t been such an idiot in between, I coulda had a wall like Don’s.


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#4 posted 02-05-2014 12:43 PM

” I have about $200, saved up by not getting haircuts”

simply EPIC.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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#5 posted 02-05-2014 02:13 PM

I agree with Don that vintage would be the best way to go if you don’t mind putting a little bit of work into them. I also agree that its a VERY slippery slope. As for a suggestion, I think I would start with a Stanley 71 router plane (or the Lee Valley version). A router plane would be good for tweaking tenons, cleaning up dados, and finishing hinge mortises. My next choice would be a good shoulder plane.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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#6 posted 02-05-2014 02:28 PM

For doing the final tweaking on tenons, this is the plane I would get. The vintage Sargent 507 is hard to find and when you do find one they sell for as much as the LN, unless you get really lucky and find one at a yard sale.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#7 posted 02-05-2014 04:24 PM

Hopefully the iron gods won’t strike me dead, but I’m not really interested in refurbishing vintage tools. I don’t seem to have enough time to do all the things I’m trying to do with wood!

Anyway, I took a look at the plane suggested by Bondo, gathered up my nerve, and put in an order for one. Shipping is 3 to 5 business days, if the world don’t freeze. I’ll give it a try and maybe post a review. Thanks for the suggestions.

-- What's a vibrant young guy like me doing in a broken down old body like this?

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#8 posted 02-05-2014 04:33 PM

I’m not into total refurb, either, but I’ve purchased 3 older Stanley planes, two off eBay and 1 off CL, that only required blade sharpening to be in pretty good shape—and you have to do that a lot of times anyway. I did flatten the soles as well on two of them, but not really sure I needed to.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#9 posted 02-05-2014 04:37 PM

Just bought that rabbit block plane in Vancouver at LN show, got to try it out and make some shavings, got to say thing of beauty! I tried the not shaving and no hair cut thing for the last month but the boss decided it was time for a shave and a hair cut ( sure hope she doesn’t expect me to get a real job!)

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#10 posted 02-05-2014 11:16 PM

Good choice, gamy. I’m about to order one of those myself, although I do love the rehab thing.

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#11 posted 02-05-2014 11:35 PM

I recently bought the LN rabbet block plane. You will really like it.

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#12 posted 02-06-2014 04:33 AM

2 things gamygeezer:

1. Don’t feel bad about wanting to spend time working wood instead of tuning up tools. Some guys love fixing up old tools, some don’t. I am somewhere in the middle. I have felt bad about it before, but I kind of realized “to each their own”. Some like to spend $30 and 5 hours to get a tool in working order. Some like to spend $200 and 10 minutes to get a tool in working order. Nobody is right or wrong.

2. You just ordered one hell of a plane

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

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#13 posted 02-14-2014 01:02 AM


UPS dropped a package on my porch a few minutes ago, 3 days through snow and ice from Atlanta (a 4 hour drive). So I ripped it open, unwrapped my new plane, fondled it for a minute or two, and… it doesn’t fit!

When I fit the cap in my palm, my thumb and middle finger fall into the cut-outs on the side, and the index finger falls on the cap right behind the blade edge. I expected to place the index finger on the brass knob in front of the throat. Also, the other two fingers wrap under the sole. It’s an uncomfortable and probably unusable grip.

Am I holding it wrong? Isn’t it generally used one-handed? It seems a little long for its width, and I though about replacing the brass knob with a larger ball for a two-handed grip.

I’ll work with it tomorrow, see what it feels like in use. I never thought I had stubby fingers, although that might be the reason I never could out-pick Chet Atkins.

All suggestions are welcome.


-- What's a vibrant young guy like me doing in a broken down old body like this?

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#14 posted 02-14-2014 04:35 AM

Gamy, Go here and look at the pics of how they are holding the plane in use. I think this could help you with your new tool.

-- "I work so I can fish"!

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#15 posted 02-14-2014 02:59 PM

Kickback, I looked at those last night. The one with the rabbet is a two handed grip, which I could easily manage. In the other, the “user” has gracefully draped his long, manicured fingers across the plane with no discernible pressure denting his soft flesh. (Hmmm does that sound catty? Naw.) Anyway, I’ve finished with KP, ate the scraps The Warden provided after feeding the dogs, and have a cup of “coffee” to take to the shop. I’ll figure out if I can or can’t use it.

Thanks for the input.


-- What's a vibrant young guy like me doing in a broken down old body like this?

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