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Forum topic by ernie posted 02-03-2014 08:20 PM 1389 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-03-2014 08:20 PM

Hello Lumberjocks,
I am needing some help to I D this tool.
From Grandads tool box. Grandad woodshop back to early green powermatic saws, jointer etc. made in USA.
Also had machine shop with tooling back from early 1900’s.
I have been through Graham Blackburn Woodworking handtools, Instruments & Devices. Not there.
Run through e- bay and couple other web sites, no luck. Myself 50 years mechanical work and tools, never seen this one.

Tool could be 1870’s onward mfg. date. My guess is grab something, a nail, staple, tack head with the duck bill and rotate back on the pole to lift it out. The curvature on the top side of the jaws would also work to grab something and rotate back on the top side for lift. Pole face has very slight curvature and may have also been used as a hammer.
Only markings are WA KER and what appears to be a three. Original was probably WALKER.
ANYONE ever seen or know the designed use of this tool?
Thanks for looking.

-- Ernie, Etna, WA

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#1 posted 02-03-2014 08:32 PM

I’m taking a wild guess here…but

I think it might be to pull fabric tight and then tap in something to hold it like on chairs and things like that…

That’s what I’d probably try to use it for without knowing what it really is for.

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#2 posted 02-03-2014 08:35 PM

For bending over shoe nails on a horse or mule. That one isn’t real efficient.

Hammer it in with the hoof hammer, not the one on the tool.

Draw it tight with the curved part of the jaws.

Hammer it down with little wedge hammer on the tool.

BTW: I would give you $6 for that rule.

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#3 posted 02-03-2014 08:36 PM

I believe it meshes the grapple grommets to the Filbert flanges. :)

I like the upholstery stretcher idea. That thing I thought might be an anvil at first could make a nice fulcrum for pulling.

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#4 posted 02-03-2014 08:38 PM

Hmmmm. They look like fence pliers to me.

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#5 posted 02-03-2014 08:47 PM

Tedstor: No cutter, no puller, I doubt they are fence pliers. I rode fence on horseback for 4 years in the summer during the 60’s. I never saw a set like those.

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#6 posted 02-03-2014 08:49 PM

Cobbler pliers:

That ruler is cute. But centimeter marks means it’s not as old as one thinks, 1960s probably.

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#7 posted 02-03-2014 08:54 PM

I’m just watching a something on the telly now about cobblers – the cobbler is using one of those to stretch and tack the leather.

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#8 posted 02-03-2014 09:06 PM


I wasn’t worried about the age, just the quality and the subject itself.

Those rules were given out to producers in the 50’s and 60’s, (yeah, even with the metric markings).

I was born in Roseburg, a long way south of Portland, but my dad drove one of their wagons in the 50’s with a 2 horse team. Out to every farmer in the area picking up the cans of raw milk.

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#9 posted 02-03-2014 09:14 PM

The horse always knew the route. No GPS either.

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#10 posted 02-03-2014 09:28 PM

Thanks everyone. Did not take long to clear this one up.
Dallas, yep, got couple miles of fence here on this place and they are not fence pliers. They could be used for clinch nails horse shoes. Lot of tools get used at other occupations Thanks for the good input.
dhazelton, that website had it exact. The ruler fools you. 20’s or earlier, when brand new a pack of them were tucked away safe and dry and discovered two years ago and bought up by antique shop outside of Portland. I picked it up for $2.00 & keep in desk drawer for straightedge.
Renners, Irish, From SW Washington to Ireland, must be 7 or 8,000 miles, you put the final word on it. Thanks and God bless.

-- Ernie, Etna, WA

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#11 posted 02-03-2014 10:25 PM

I guess the phone number PORTLAND 4 should have been a giveaway that it was early. But the metric still puzzles me.

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#12 posted 02-04-2014 02:21 AM

Dallas got it right! That is a farrier’s nail clincher.
The ‘hammer looking’ block on the side is a clinch block for tightening the clinches after they have been cut and before using the clincher.

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#13 posted 02-04-2014 02:44 AM

Andy, I was just guessing, based on former tool usage. Mine didn’t look anything like that, but I couldn’t tell you who made them.

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#14 posted 02-04-2014 02:47 AM

looks alot like the wheel weight pliers we use in automotive, older ones of course the news ones are pure junk.

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#15 posted 02-04-2014 12:26 PM

Those are shoe last pinchers.

I am trained as a custom shoe maker.

They are used to stretch the upper over the last. The hammer is to set tacks to hold the leather in place. Then there are many ways to attach the upper to the midsole.
I have 3 in different sizes and shapes.

Edit the hammer part also acts as a fulcrum to aid in stretching the leather.

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