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Justin8152000

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157 days ago

Thinking I am going to get the 715P, any have one now or had one that might recommend something different? I have read most of the reviews of it on here and everyone is pretty positive about it. But is it like everything else, like its always nice when it is new and shinny and after you have it for awhile its not as good or you wish you would of got something else?

Is the fence as nice as it looks? I remember one member saying he had issues with it and Grizzly replaced it. I gotta have a nice fence. I have recently looked at the Sawstop at my local Woodcraft. It is very nice and the fence was smooth and solid. For me I can not justify the almost $1800 difference for it. I know it is well worth the money, I have read plenty on that table saw too. I would hate to spend the $1000 on the Grizzly and need to upgrade the fence.


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toolie

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#1 posted 157 days ago

When I visited the Grizzly showroom in munch last august, I looked, specifically, at the 690, the 1023 and the 715. I was really impressed with the fence on the 715. It looked to be even heavier duty than my delta t2. I doubt it would be a disappointment.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#2 posted 157 days ago

I upgraded from a 715p to a 1023, but that’s because my 715p was bad right off the pallet. It had a huge blade parallelism issues when the blade elevation changed. Upon taking is back Grizzly inquired what I bought the tabel saw for and I replied picture frames and furniture. They actually recommended I not use the 715p for those tasks and upgrade to the 1023. You can find my old posts about this elsewhere but this issue I had was not too uncommon. I do remember the fence being nice on the 715, but I think a true cabinet saw is worth the upgrade.

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retfr8flyr

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#3 posted 157 days ago

You’re talking about roughly $400 difference between the 715 and a real cabinet saw. If you figure the cost over the life of the saw the cost is negligible. When you figure the difference’s between the saws it’s huge. You will never have buyers regret getting the better saw.

I was in you shoes last summer, trying to decide how much to spend and what I would be happy with in a table saw. I decided the spend the extra and get the saw I wanted, instead of wishing I had gotten it and upgrading in a couple of years.

If you can swing the cost of the better saw I don’t think you will regret it. If you can’t justify the cost. I think the 715 will work for you but you will most likely upgrade the saw down the line. It’s hard to describe the difference in feel and confidence when using a true heavy weight cabinet saw and anything else

-- Earl

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Justin8152000

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#4 posted 157 days ago

That is exactly the kind of information I am looking for. I will look at the 1023 as well now. Thank you guys.

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Justin8152000

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#5 posted 157 days ago

What if I took the same amount of money and looked for something used? An older delta Unisaw or I know where there is a 10yr old Jet jtas-10-1 (3hp single phase)

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#6 posted 157 days ago

Justin I have the 715 saw it have had for little over 2 years . The saw works fine and does everything I ask it to . Looking back now I will upgrade in the next couple of years to full cabinet saw . Wish I had bought different saw to start with so I would not have to upgrade .

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#7 posted 156 days ago

”What if I took the same amount of money and looked for something used? ”

Used often gives the most saw for the money, but the market isn’t reliable….it really depends on what’s available when you’re looking. You’re also more likely to give up on some modern features like a riving knife or possibly a blade guard with a used saw, but every case is different.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Justin8152000

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#8 posted 156 days ago

Robdem- What benefits will you gain when you upgrade in a couple of years?

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 156 days ago

Justin, I bought the 715 when it first came out and have used/abused it ever since. I have had no problems with the saw and I have no complaints with the fence. I did have to replace the start capacitor in the motor this year which was not a big deal.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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keninblaine

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#10 posted 156 days ago

I think many of us (me included) think we should be able to get a great saw for under $1000, and I’m sure many of us would be satisfied with a saw that sells new for $500-$800 such as the Ridgid, new Delta at Lowes, and Grizzly 715P or even G0732, or a used Unisaw etc. I have been grappling with this for the past month or so, and have been perusing Craigslist for good used saws, but they are few and far between in my part of the country. After reading this post, preceded by many other posts about deciding on the best table saw for a given budget, I started thinking last night that perhaps I need to put table saw pricing into perspective. I recently bought a new Macbook Pro for about $1800. So I thought, if I can spend that much for a fricking laptop, why am I balking at shelling out $1200 or more for a decent saw? Plus, the saw will last a lot longer than the laptop.

A couple of weeks ago I came close to pulling the trigger on the Delta 36-725 at Lowes, but something was still bothering me about it. Then my local Grizzly guys said they were putting their G0661 ($925) on sale for $775 since it is now discontinued. So I started re-thinking getting a Grizzly, since they are only 25 minutes from my house, and I like dealing with the Bellingham staff. While I was pondering the deal on the G0661, a used G1023 came up on CL which was about 2 hours away. 13 years old, bent fence rails and broken fence, but otherwise fine and only $250. I figured since the original fence wasn’t that great, I could just put on a new ShopFox fence for about $300 and have a great saw. Unfortunately, someone showed up and bought it before the owner could even email me photos! But given my analogy of the laptop cost, I’m now seriously considering getting a nice saw, like a 715P or even a 1023RL or 1023RLW, for between $795 and $1360 (I’m close enough to Grizzly to buy direct and avoid shipping cost). These prices are considerably less than the laptop!
BTW, I find it interesting that the 1023RL lists at $1295, but for only $65 more, the 1023RLW gives you a router table top that doubles as the right side table extension. Considering that the router table extension sells separately for $247 plus shipping, this seems like a great deal.
While finding a good Unisaw etc. seems appealing, I’m more concerned about getting a saw that has the latest safety features and good dust collection capabilities. My hobby work isn’t worthy of a work horse like a Unisaw, and I’m old enough not to worry if a saw will last more than 15 or 20 years.
Good luck to the OP in making the best selection for his needs and budget.

-- Ken, Blaine Washington

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#11 posted 156 days ago

I myself like a saw that doesn’t bog down when I lay down some 3 inch white oak to saw, which I don’t do anymore but the 1023 will handle this kind of work, that is the answer your lookin for, plenty of power to spare, it’s there when you want it

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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Justin8152000

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#12 posted 154 days ago

After looking at the Grizzly stuff more Ken did point out something that I didnt notice before about the 1023rlw. That does look like a nice saw and for just a tad more the 1023RLWX is 5hp… I feel like it is over kill but maybe this is the way to go.

I am also very curious about the T10223 Sliding Table Attachment. I love the Idea about having something like that wont take up too much space but adds a lot to the saw. I do have a track saw to cut down larger panels but the video says you can rip 48” so that would be nice. Not something I would use every day but it locks into place and looks like it would not be an issue.

But again,I went from an $800 saw to a $1400 saw and $600 sliding table attachment. All of this and I really dont need a new saw, I just want one. With out the sliding table attachment I am half the price of the sawstop so I feel like its a win…

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#13 posted 154 days ago

i have a 1946 Delta Unisaw (was my wife’s grandfathers, and her great grandfathers before him).

So, i can’t really comment on the grizzly saws, but i have the 8” jointer, 15” Planer, and 21” Bandsaw from grizz: No complaints as far as that goes.

trust me, go with the bigger power (so long as you have the electrical for it, or can get it run). I’d say with all the effort of getting these big beast machines moved in to your space and then setting them up, get one you will use for a very long time, you won’t regret it.

-- Ev in Framingham, MA

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Justin8152000

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#14 posted 154 days ago

Yeah I was surprised to see the 5hp single phase. I dont ever think you can go wrong with more power.. :)

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#15 posted 153 days ago

Justin when I up grade new saw will have a 3hp motor at least .Also just did some shop upgrades and the table saw was out of whack spent 2 hours adjusting it to get blade square to table . motor assembly is attached to trunnion whole assembly is bolted to table with four bolts .Not the easiest think to adjust unless you have arms like a little girl. 715 is a good saw but wont be my last if I bought bigger and better don’t feel i would have need to upgrade.

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