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Forum topic by codysmith posted 333 days ago 697 views 1 time favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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codysmith

8 posts in 355 days


333 days ago

I was wondering what techniques LJ’s are using to find the center point of the end of a board accurately. I am trying to mark the dead center on the end of some 1×4’s to make some tenons in a Leigh FMT jig. Sometimes I measure and mark it right on the money and other times I am off just enough to be frustrating.

I’ve noticed that some of the boards vary from the standard 3/4” x 3-1/2” by as much as 1/8”. Is there a tool or technique I could use to find the center and speed up the process rather than wasting time cutting and then making adjustments?

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bob101

46 posts in 348 days


333 days ago

You could start by planing the boards to be exactly the same which would be easier, But it sounds like you are using dimensioned stock from the store, if this is the case I would just use a good rule and measure twice, and hope for the best.

-- rob, ont,canada

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DaveH

372 posts in 676 days


333 days ago

You would think for $800 bucks the jig would find the center for you. Draw an X from corner to corner.

-- DaveH - Boise, Idaho - “How hard can it be? It's only wood!”

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randal

54 posts in 337 days


333 days ago

Try this. Take a ruler and tilt it until you have an exact even amount of inches. Example, a 2×4 is approx 3.5” wide. Tilt the ruler until it “measures” 4 inches and the halfway point is 2”. Easier than all those 1/16ths and 1/32nds.

I also bought a center point tape measure several years ago. One side is the measurement, then find that measurement on the other side and that’s the middle. Works neat.

-- Randal, DeKalb, Illinois

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CessnaPilotBarry

1287 posts in 600 days


333 days ago

I use a combo square.

- Set it approximately half width by eyeball
- Use it to make a pencil mark
- Flip the square, and do the same from the other side

The center is exactly between the two marks. It doesn’t matter if the square was set more or less than the 1/2 way point. It’s very easy to see the center point between marks 1/8” apart, but not edges 3 1/2” apart.

Try it and see!

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randal

54 posts in 337 days


333 days ago

Try this link to see the center point tape measure.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?Offerings_ID=1256&TabSelect=Details

-- Randal, DeKalb, Illinois

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juniorjock

790 posts in 663 days


333 days ago

There’s lots of ways to do it. But I do agree with DaveH. That is if it’s practical for your application.
-JJ

-- JJ...... I guess you could say I'm a 54 year old "juniorjock". — Make things with wood.

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codysmith

8 posts in 355 days


332 days ago

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I really appreciate and will try all of them, especially the center point tape measure.

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mgradwohl

190 posts in 711 days


332 days ago

+1 on Randal’s idea of just skewing a nice ruler. That’s the way the old guys did it. Need to mark a 7 inch board into thirds? Well, skew the ruler until it spans from 0 to 9, then mark at 3 and 6. Your board is now in thirds. Need to mark it in half? Skew the ruler until you’re at 8, and mark at 4. You can do this for any number of sections.

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codysmith

8 posts in 355 days


331 days ago

I totally agree with the ruler skewing method. I can’t believe I never thought of that before. Thanks Randal.

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OttawaP

53 posts in 624 days


324 days ago

The thing about the FMT is that it does not need to be “perfect” centered as long as you reference the tenon and mortice on the correct side when you place them in the jig your joint alignment will be 100% perfect.
The FMT is an exceptional tool to use. I just used it to install 4 corner dowels into a big old newel post. I made a matching template so I could drill out the stair tread and the post and dowels just slid in nicely.

-- Paul

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ryno101

248 posts in 562 days


304 days ago

My technique, for what it’s worth (I do a fair amount of turning…) is to use a “center finding rule” to find the center point of all faces, connect the lines, then use the “corner to corner” method to connect the opposing corners… what results is a box, the center of that box is the true center of the piece.

-- Ryno

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CharlieM1958

7670 posts in 1116 days


304 days ago

Here is a thought…. simple to make and foolproof.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Kindlingmaker

1476 posts in 424 days


304 days ago

CharlieM1958 is right on target but use a 5mm mechcanical pencil so as the lead line is always the same width.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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Grumpy

14932 posts in 749 days


304 days ago

I use a jig similar to Charlie but more often then not I use an adjustable square as CessnaPilotBarry does.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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Rob

197 posts in 565 days


304 days ago

I’ve made that dowel jig a few times but I’ve never gotten it to be that accurate. I tried again tonight and found it off by 3/64ths. But I suppose you could run it both ways giving you two lines to gauge the middle by, much like using the combo square. I’ve tried to make a jig that works on the principle of the Starrett’s centre finder but couldn’t get it dialed in. I wanted it for finding the centre of circles which I find very difficult. I’ll have to try again sometime unless I just break down and buy one. Anyone have the Starrett? And if so, how is it?

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jm540

133 posts in 317 days


303 days ago

i just divide mark from both ends and split the difference. I have used the tilt method it works but I cant convince my self to trust it. I also use a slide square

-- jay Rambling on and on again

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jeffthewoodwacker

487 posts in 702 days


303 days ago

One issue to consider is that even dimensional lumber from the big box stores don’t run true the length of the board. I normally square up all stock before finding dead center and then check the length of the board for accuracy.

-- Those that say it can't be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

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noknot

218 posts in 339 days


300 days ago

It is important to start out with equal size stock or it will turn into a lot of small probs later, but the center finding rule not tape is what cha need . have fun

-- projects dont pay,pieces are profitable,production is painfull

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CaptnA

114 posts in 711 days


300 days ago

Charlie has a version of what I have. Mine was copied from a commercial version. Its not pretty but it sure is functional. Mine uses a fine metal point instead of a pencil. Once marked I can highlight with a pencil. Pencils work for marking as long as they are sharpened consistently.
But I love making and using my own tools whe nI can.

-- CaptnA - "When someone hurts you, write it in the sand so the winds of forgiveness will scatter the memory... "

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motthunter

2079 posts in 697 days


300 days ago

I use a center finding guide that I made. It is a rather basic jig

-- making sawdust....

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