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333 days ago |
I was wondering what techniques LJ’s are using to find the center point of the end of a board accurately. I am trying to mark the dead center on the end of some 1×4’s to make some tenons in a Leigh FMT jig. Sometimes I measure and mark it right on the money and other times I am off just enough to be frustrating. I’ve noticed that some of the boards vary from the standard 3/4” x 3-1/2” by as much as 1/8”. Is there a tool or technique I could use to find the center and speed up the process rather than wasting time cutting and then making adjustments? |
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333 days ago |
You could start by planing the boards to be exactly the same which would be easier, But it sounds like you are using dimensioned stock from the store, if this is the case I would just use a good rule and measure twice, and hope for the best. -- rob, ont,canada |
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333 days ago |
You would think for $800 bucks the jig would find the center for you. Draw an X from corner to corner. -- DaveH - Boise, Idaho - “How hard can it be? It's only wood!” |
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333 days ago |
Try this. Take a ruler and tilt it until you have an exact even amount of inches. Example, a 2×4 is approx 3.5” wide. Tilt the ruler until it “measures” 4 inches and the halfway point is 2”. Easier than all those 1/16ths and 1/32nds. I also bought a center point tape measure several years ago. One side is the measurement, then find that measurement on the other side and that’s the middle. Works neat. -- Randal, DeKalb, Illinois |
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333 days ago |
I use a combo square. - Set it approximately half width by eyeball The center is exactly between the two marks. It doesn’t matter if the square was set more or less than the 1/2 way point. It’s very easy to see the center point between marks 1/8” apart, but not edges 3 1/2” apart. Try it and see! -- - Please help keep Lumberjocks an enjoyable escape by refusing to participate in political discussions. Simply spit out the bait and ignore the thread... |
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333 days ago |
Try this link to see the center point tape measure. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?Offerings_ID=1256&TabSelect=Details -- Randal, DeKalb, Illinois |
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333 days ago |
There’s lots of ways to do it. But I do agree with DaveH. That is if it’s practical for your application. -- JJ...... I guess you could say I'm a 54 year old "juniorjock". — Make things with wood. |
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332 days ago |
Thanks for all of your suggestions. I really appreciate and will try all of them, especially the center point tape measure. |
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332 days ago |
+1 on Randal’s idea of just skewing a nice ruler. That’s the way the old guys did it. Need to mark a 7 inch board into thirds? Well, skew the ruler until it spans from 0 to 9, then mark at 3 and 6. Your board is now in thirds. Need to mark it in half? Skew the ruler until you’re at 8, and mark at 4. You can do this for any number of sections. |
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331 days ago |
I totally agree with the ruler skewing method. I can’t believe I never thought of that before. Thanks Randal. |
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324 days ago |
The thing about the FMT is that it does not need to be “perfect” centered as long as you reference the tenon and mortice on the correct side when you place them in the jig your joint alignment will be 100% perfect. -- Paul |
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304 days ago |
My technique, for what it’s worth (I do a fair amount of turning…) is to use a “center finding rule” to find the center point of all faces, connect the lines, then use the “corner to corner” method to connect the opposing corners… what results is a box, the center of that box is the true center of the piece. -- Ryno |
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304 days ago |
Here is a thought…. simple to make and foolproof.
-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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304 days ago |
CharlieM1958 is right on target but use a 5mm mechcanical pencil so as the lead line is always the same width. -- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings |
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304 days ago |
I use a jig similar to Charlie but more often then not I use an adjustable square as CessnaPilotBarry does. -- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python |
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304 days ago |
I’ve made that dowel jig a few times but I’ve never gotten it to be that accurate. I tried again tonight and found it off by 3/64ths. But I suppose you could run it both ways giving you two lines to gauge the middle by, much like using the combo square. I’ve tried to make a jig that works on the principle of the Starrett’s centre finder but couldn’t get it dialed in. I wanted it for finding the centre of circles which I find very difficult. I’ll have to try again sometime unless I just break down and buy one. Anyone have the Starrett? And if so, how is it? |
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303 days ago |
i just divide mark from both ends and split the difference. I have used the tilt method it works but I cant convince my self to trust it. I also use a slide square -- jay Rambling on and on again |
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303 days ago |
One issue to consider is that even dimensional lumber from the big box stores don’t run true the length of the board. I normally square up all stock before finding dead center and then check the length of the board for accuracy. -- Those that say it can't be done should not interrupt those who are doing it. |
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300 days ago |
It is important to start out with equal size stock or it will turn into a lot of small probs later, but the center finding rule not tape is what cha need . have fun -- projects dont pay,pieces are profitable,production is painfull |
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300 days ago |
Charlie has a version of what I have. Mine was copied from a commercial version. Its not pretty but it sure is functional. Mine uses a fine metal point instead of a pencil. Once marked I can highlight with a pencil. Pencils work for marking as long as they are sharpened consistently. -- CaptnA - "When someone hurts you, write it in the sand so the winds of forgiveness will scatter the memory... " |
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300 days ago |
I use a center finding guide that I made. It is a rather basic jig -- making sawdust.... |
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