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MontyJ

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02-02-2014 12:45 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw rust

Hi folks. My first post here.

I’m in the process of putting together a small woodshop, strictly hobbyist stuff for the wife; cabinets, sewing boxes etc, etc…just trying to keep her happy.

First on the list is a table saw. At first I was looking at the Rigid R4512, but all to many owners complain of alignment issues, then I started looking into the other option in that price range, the Delta 36-725 at Lowes. I don’t think there are enough of them out there to form an opinion yet.

I would rather go with something a little higher end than either of those so I started hunting craigslist. The only decent saw I have found so far is a 10” Jet about 50 miles away. The model number isn’t listed, but from the two pictures posted of it, it is a contractor saw and appears to be in good condition, with one exception: the cast iron table is evenly coated with surface rust. I can’t tell how heavy the rust layer is from the pictures, but it is more than just a “stain” layer, if you know what I mean.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/4282545897.html

The seller is asking $850 for it. So my question is, is it possible to get the rust off of the table and out of the miter slots? If so, is the seller asking a fair price for this saw?

Thanks for any info.

-- Pro Libertate!


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2x4xDoug

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#1 posted 02-02-2014 01:05 PM

That seems a bit pricey to me. It looks like an older model with comparable new models going for just a couple hundred more. It also does not appear to be well maintained. I have the 4512 and have not had any trouble with alignment. In fact, it is one of my favorite large purchases. Save the 300 bucks and buy a router wing for the table saw! :-)

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oxyoke

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#2 posted 02-02-2014 01:19 PM

400.00 tops imho

-- Bill Byron Center MI

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Skippy906

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#3 posted 02-02-2014 01:21 PM

That price is way too high for that saw. I see you are near Pittsburgh, I have one I am selling, here is the link to it.
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/57531
Let me know what you think

-- Making progress

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Fred Hargis

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#4 posted 02-02-2014 01:24 PM

That guy with the saw in the first link isn’t even close to a reasonable price…..don’t even bother.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Madwood

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#5 posted 02-02-2014 01:52 PM

That’s a basic line Jet saw. It wasn’t even his asking price when it was new. I’d check into Skippy’s Griz or keep looking

-- In the shop making chaos out of order

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xraydav

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#6 posted 02-02-2014 02:04 PM

I have owned Delta contractors saw, and yes had alignment issues. I have owned a Sears vintage 1960s cast iron monster, and had no alignment issues but motor problems and weight issues. I recently gave that saw to my godson as he has lots of interest. I needed a saw to move into my basement workshop and found a used Powermatic Artisan for $275 bucks. It is my dream saw. I have made 8 jigs for it and every one responds perfectly as there are no alignment issues. It is light enough to wrestle around if I have to. I have built a dust collection tray under it and my 2 hp Rikon reigns it in pretty well. Just saying before you spend big bucks on anything do not rule out used. As for rust, sand it down, 180 then 220 and finish with 400 and wax it with car wax, at least 4 coats and relax. I also use car wax on my wood planes, band saw tables, lathe bed and any other metal in my basement shop. I have a stone foundation and water gets in after 3-4 days of hard rain so I have to be proactive.

-- David, Norwood Mass, xraydav@aol.com

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bondogaposis

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#7 posted 02-02-2014 02:05 PM

To answer your question though, that rust doesn’t look too bad. I think it could be easily cleaned up. However you might point out to the seller that it is horribly rusted and because of that you’ll offer him $400.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Skippy906

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#8 posted 02-02-2014 02:31 PM

Xraydav – I have read in some other posts that car wax can affect the finish on some projects. Have you ever experienced that? I just use johnsons paste wax on my machines. Works great and very slick finish.

bondogaposis – I only paid $800 for the saw I am selling. It even has cast iron wings. The delta he found on CL, looks like and older craftsman I used to have long ago, and I don’t think I spent 300 on it new. I have no idea where this guy came up with the price of $850. Cheap drugs maybe….LOL

-- Making progress

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dhazelton

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#9 posted 02-02-2014 02:56 PM

That’s not an $800 saw. The seller is high, figuratively and possibly literally as well. Tons of older Craftsmans out for $150 or so that are as good as that saw.

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Ross

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#10 posted 02-02-2014 10:06 PM

It’s a decent saw. I have one just like it that I bought new for $500.00 or so. I would offer the guy $300.00 tops. There’s a lot of WD-40 steel wool and elbow grease involved to get the top cleaned up. Based on the condition of the top I would also suspect that it’s pretty nasty inside as well.

-- "Man Plans and God Laughs"

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lepelerin

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#11 posted 02-02-2014 10:21 PM

I do have a Ridgid4512 and I must be lucky because I do not have the alignment issue.
The saw in the picture is not worth $800. I would offer max 350-400 for it if I were in a generous mood :)

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TheWoodenOyster

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#12 posted 02-02-2014 10:23 PM

Too high. Especially with rust. If it was 3 hp I would say maybe you could talk him down to something reasonable, but I bet it is 1 1/2 or 2 hp. Keep looking. You are going to have to haunt CL for a while to get a good one (unless you get lucky). It is possible to get good deals on there, but it isn’t easy and it will test the patience. In my opinion, it is better to find something in pretty good condition for a decent price. In my book, condition is more important than price. I’ll pay an extra $100 for something that is rust free, because rust on the top doesn’t bode well for the rest of the saw that you cannot see. I got a Made in the USA Unisaw 3hp with an extension table, excalibur fence, and a 3 hp router for $1050. So, the bare saw was probably in the $850 range. Great condition.

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

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#13 posted 02-02-2014 10:26 PM

OP – I sold the same Jet TS, minus the rust, to a friend of mine a few years ago for $350.00. I sold it too cheap but I had no where to put/use it at the time. $850 is whacky

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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rblank

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#14 posted 02-02-2014 10:48 PM

I’m sorry, but giwen the choice between that saw at a “reasonable” $400 saw thzt needs a complete reconditioning, or a brand new Ridgid R4512 with all the latest safety features for close to the same price, I’ll take the Ridgid. I did a lot of research a few years back and the 4512 was the best bang for the buck. ANY saw is going to need to be aligned. I’ve had minimal problems with mine and it’s kept in my non-climate controlled garage. In fact just yesterday I had to remove some very light surface rust from my table, but otherwise it’s done everything I’ve asked of it.

-- Commercial Construction Manager - Attleboro, MA

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bowedcurly

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#15 posted 02-02-2014 11:13 PM

300.00 maybe you can buy a great saw for 850 even a grizz hybird it’s 10x the saw

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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