Performance Report - Grizzly G0696X, G0490, Powermatic 15HH

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02-01-2014 03:35 AM

Performance Report:

I gave these machines their first real work out on some 1×12 Sapele that was in near rough sawn condition. Rough sawn edges, near rough sawn surfaces, plus one board had a sharp ‘S’ curve to plane flat. This stock is for a RAS fence and table so accuracy was key.

Grizzly 8” parallelogram Jointer G0490 w/Byrd Shelix Cutter Head – The jointer worked flawlessly I was able to get the edges and faces milled dead flat, big old smile across my face.

Grizzly 12” Table Saw G0696X – I wasn’t happy rough ripping the stock to width on the table saw. I burned some edges and it seemed too difficult to push the stock. I think the table needs some wax, the search continues for a table treatment that’s both slick and prevents rust. As for the burning while I did joint an edge flat the surface was still rough sawn and warped e.g. I needed to rip it to width so I could joint it. All these guys talking about their 12”-16” jointers okay I get you now. lol Once I jointed the stock flat cross cuts on the table saw were like cutting a wet noodle this beast seemed bored with such a meager task. This thing will shoot saw dust at you out the top like a fire hose though and that’s with a cyclone connected.

Powermatic 15” Planer 15HH w/Byrd Shelix Cutter Head - Once I had the stock roughed to width and jointed flat on one side I then planed it to the final thickness. Then I turned all the stock on edge and planed it to width several boards at a time. I was quite happy with the performance except for one issue, the infeed roller with the knife like teeth is leaving marks in the wood that’s not planning off so it obviously needs adjustment. I took some heavier cuts you could hear it load up but it never slowed down.

As for finally accuracy and quality I was impressed its flat and square and consistent from piece to piece which for less experienced wood workers like me just makes things so much easier.

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#1 posted 02-01-2014 03:44 AM

after the wood was plained and was cut like a wet noodle…

how was the Ridge Carbide Blade… how were the edges and on the boards and what not?

-- David Henley

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#2 posted 02-01-2014 03:53 AM

TBD David I was using the Freud blade. While I was cleaning up I did install the Ridge Carbide blade though. I have to trim one of the fences tomorrow that I glued up tonight so I’ll let you know tomorrow.

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#3 posted 02-01-2014 03:59 AM

Thanks for the update,I’m glad it’s all working out.

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#4 posted 02-01-2014 04:08 AM

How do you like that smell of sapele? I get excited everytime i cut a piece. It’s like potpourri.

I’m envious of that table saw. It’s a beast!

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#5 posted 02-01-2014 06:49 AM

You mean burned sapele uh it kind of stinks. lol But seriously it has an interesting smell. Now Zebra wood good lord it smells like a sewer…or Florida tap water same thing.

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#6 posted 02-01-2014 07:06 AM

Try rough cutting lumber at the bandsaw. It is dangerous to rip rough lumber on the TS.
Glad the jointer worked well for you.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#7 posted 02-01-2014 07:18 AM

Now that you have those new tools let’s get some shop pics going.

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#8 posted 02-01-2014 07:28 AM

Willie well don’t I feel like a stupid idiot, of course rough cut with the band saw DUH so obvious now that you mention it and I have a 19” beast band saw (face palm)

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#9 posted 02-01-2014 12:49 PM

Why not go old school on getting the tables slick. Clean off any wax or lube from tables and use talcum powder. I put the powder down and rub it in with a chalkboard eraser. It is a lot quicker and less elbow grease than wax, and I believe it is slicker. It will take several applications over a short time and really makes a difference.

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#10 posted 02-01-2014 03:31 PM

If your Powermatic planer is the same machine as the Grizzly 15” planer (If it is new it’s most likely the same design) the serrated infeed roller is the limiting factor on how thin a cut you can take. The cut needs to be deep enough to slice off the infeed roller marks. If the marks are very small and your outfeed roller is finely serrated, that is another issue, and cannot be adjusted out without increasing snipe.

I have the 15” Grizzly and I removed the outfeed roller and machined off the serrations. The result is no more annoying little marks to come back an bite when staining. The whole process took about 3 hours, including turning off the serrations. A machine shop could do this in under one hour’s shop time. Well worth doing.

-- Minnesota Woodworkers Guild, Past President, Lifetime member.

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#11 posted 02-01-2014 03:58 PM

Thanks for the great review,
I also have the spiral head 15” Grizzly planer, if you do not take a big enough cut, the out feed roller will leave serrated marks in your finished board. I just read Hydro’s comment, I believe I will try turning my out feed roller also.

-- Bob in Montana. Kindness is the Language the blind can see and deaf can hear. - Mark Twain

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#12 posted 02-01-2014 04:02 PM

Burning wood on a rip cut would generally indicate a fence adjustment, blade selection, technique, or all of the above. Dimensioning it straight and flat prior to ripping can only help.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#13 posted 02-01-2014 04:59 PM

Hydro/Bob I purchased the 15” Powermatic 15HH precisely because I used to own the Grizzly version and the serrated outfeed roller left marks in the wood and the PM 15HH has a smooth outfeed roller. I never had an issue with the Grizzly infeed roller so I’ll have to look into this but yes I did take some light finish cuts with it.

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