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212 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question lathe turning

OK, question for you turnings here. Did you ever have a lathe gouge catch and bend? This happened to cheap HF tools, so I am hoping a decent HSS set would be better, and easier to sharpen. I haven’t seen any other threads on line with bent tools. The lathe had a segmented block on it, that was somewhat rounded by a band saw, made up of cherry and beech. My wife intends to create a bowl with it. The speed was set to 1500, although the unit does have one slower speed of 950. Any advice?

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **


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DIYaholic

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#1 posted 212 days ago

Full Face Shield!!! ;^)

Being a newbie myself….
I’m pretty much useless, regarding this inquiry!!!

Glad your better half wasn’t hurt!!!
She wasn’t hurt, was she….
You failed to include that tidbit!!!

Oh, I just had a thought…..
What gouge was she using?
A “Spindle Roughing Gouge” has a very thin tang, when compared to a bowl gouge. That tang would be/is the weak link. A “Spindle Roughing Gouge”, should NEVER be used for face plate/bowl turning.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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#2 posted 212 days ago

It is possible this is the problem: A “Spindle Roughing Gouge” has a very thin tang, when compared to a bowl gouge. That tang would be/is the weak link. A “Spindle Roughing Gouge”, should NEVER be used for face plate/bowl turning.

I have a couple of cheaper brand chisels but never had any issues, but you could have had one that had a defect in the steel. Impressed with a demo soon after I got my lathe I started to buy, (one at a time at this price point) higher end chisels. They do work well but I have two sets of chisels mid grade and they have never given me issues.

Glad to hear the wife was not hurt.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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#3 posted 212 days ago

Thanks Randy. Nope, she wasn’t hurt. She was wearing her full face shield … while I helped out by trying to get the thing round – without a face shield. It was a spindle gouge that I was using, which I guess is not the right tool. But I was only trying to round it, not carve out the inside. PSI has a set of Benjamin’s Best bowl gouges. Would that be appropriate for turning the outside of the bowl blank? I’m also looking at the 8 piece set, but that would be back to the spindle tools. So many questions …

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#4 posted 212 days ago

Woodbutcher, they are definitely cheap tools. I purchased them to see how my wife would enjoy turning. She really likes it, so a good set will be a worthwhile investment. Thanks for the reply.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#5 posted 212 days ago

I have the “Benjamin’s Best” 8 piece set. It does come with one bowl gouge.
I haven’t tried any bowl or face plate turning yet, so can’t really offer any input.
You’ve heard it said….
The lathe is the inexpensive part of the turning addiction!!! ;^)

Remember, there is always Craigslist….

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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lightcs1776

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#6 posted 212 days ago

Craig’s List … about worthless around here, although I have gotten lucky a couple times. I’ll take a close look at the 8 piece. I didn’t realize it had a bowl gouge. I gave her one bowl gouge, a 3/8th Benjamin’s Best, but we haven’t used it. The tool needs to be cutting the end grain on the block, which I hope is OK.

Thanks for the feedback. Time to call it a night.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#7 posted 212 days ago

The end grain is a tougher cut, just what the bowl gouge’s larger tang is designed for.
The bowl gouge in the 8 piece set is different than the one sold seperately, but I don know that the “3/8” dimension is different.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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#8 posted 212 days ago

Never use a spindle gouge or spindle roughing gouge on faceplate work. Use the slower speed for faceplate work no need to spin it at 1500rpm. Keep your tools sharp. When turning a bowl I often sharping a few times depending on the piece. I had purchased the set of Benjamin’s myself and find them to be good.

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lightcs1776

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#9 posted 212 days ago

Thanks for the input JayCop. I definitely won’t be using a spindle gouge for this again. I’ll also slow it down further, although I can only go to 950.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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DIYaholic

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#10 posted 211 days ago

I checked the PSI website….
The 8 piece set comes with a 1/2” bowl gouge & it is on sale!!!
The one you have is the 3/8”, so you won’t end up with a duplicate.

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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#11 posted 211 days ago

And it’s been ordered as of a few minutes ago. Thanks Randy. I also ordered a 5/8ths gouge, just in case I run into a problem with the 1/2”.

Now I have to make that jig to keep them sharp.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#12 posted 211 days ago

Chris,
I’ve got a few links, that may come in handy.
If you want them, PM me your email and I’ll send them to you.

??? Have you ordered the grinder yet?

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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lightcs1776

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#13 posted 211 days ago

I’ll get my email right over to you. Thanks!

Grinder was ordered last night, HSS tools this morning, along with a pen kit. I’m waiting to ensure my wife has everything she needs before I order any more tools for myself. I think I’m getting close. It’s pretty cool watching her enjoy the lathe.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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#14 posted 211 days ago

Depending upon size of lathe & bowls you turn either a 3/8” or ½” bowl gouge is all you need. Would rather you buy two of the same size gouge and put a fingernail grind on one and side grind on the other.

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LX210.html?prodpage=1LX

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LX220.html?prodpage=1LX

Easier to learn technique with one gouge regardless of type grind on it than three different sizes.

Yes, PSI bowl gouge set priced reasonable but would still recommend a single size gouge starting out.

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LX298.html?prodpage=1LX

Sharpening
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bowl+gouge+sharpening&sm=1

-- Bill

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lightcs1776

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#15 posted 211 days ago

Thanks, Bill. I’ll set aside the one gouge until the wife gets comfortable with one of the others. I realize the 5/8 gouge was somewhat unnecessary, but it will encourage her in learning how to turn.

I’ll watch the sharpening videos with extreme interest. I can sharpen a chisel or plane iron just fine, but the lathe tools seem to be unique.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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