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Blackie_

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177 days ago

I was looking online at fire places and came across this important bit of information that I never took into consideration nor did I realize, and thought I’d share it here since it also addresses wood burning stoves. There’s another thing besides sawdust that we now have to worry about in protecting our lungs.

The Wood Stove / Fire Place Delusion

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I want to first apologize for this posting, I posted it without taking into consideration many other factors involved and am on the fence about removing it but since so many have taken the time to post long informative comments on it I think that would be selfish to remove it, a lot of great points have been made and I tend to agree, there were things that I had not taken into consideration before posting it such as the fact I too like outside BBQ’s and I’m not going to stop.

I’ll leave it up to the curious to view the article but as others have posted below it’s producing no result and useless.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs


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Picklehead

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#1 posted 177 days ago

I think softwoods are ok. ABSOLUTELY NO HARDWOODS ARE TO BE BURNED, and should be forwarded to my address (available upon request) for proper disposal. You will thank me later.

-- You've got to be smarter than the tree.

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Armandhammer

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#2 posted 177 days ago

I know many, many people that heat their homes with wood. I know very very few people that have or have had cancer or any type of serious respiratory illness besides the occasional bout of pneumonia. I think I’ll take my chances.

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Blackie_

3289 posts in 1110 days


#3 posted 177 days ago

Pickle, from what I understand after reading is that no woods are safe no matter soft or hard, however I believe gas is safe though and am thinking of converting my fireplace to gas now, just need to have the gas lines ran to it.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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dhazelton

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#4 posted 177 days ago

It’s absolutely correct. But my alternative is burning more fuel oil with all the geopolitical bagage that comes with. Not to mention the cost at over $3.50 a gallon at the moment. The downed ash trees in the woods behind me are free except for the chain saw gas and oil. I wonder how much pellet stoves pollute?

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Blackie_

3289 posts in 1110 days


#5 posted 177 days ago

I’m not going to be an advocate on this issue, but I am going to take into consideration the people that are outside of my fireplace the same as second hand smoke from a cigarette.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Craftsman70

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#6 posted 177 days ago

And eating a steak off the grill is bad for you too, but you have to live life and not worry about every little thing.

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Don W

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#7 posted 177 days ago

Almost all heat comes from combustion. Yes gas is cleaner, but cleaner doesn’t necessarily equate to clean. And how do we get gas? There are plenty of environmental issues there as well.

I’m not suggesting the article is wrong, I am suggesting there is no reference to a real life perspective. I’m betting the same article could be written for gas in relationship to electric heat, but then the same question can be asked about how we get electric.

It’s your money, so spend it how you feel is right, but I’d suggest some research to put it into perspective of the big picture. It may be spot on, but it may be just another internet article with some facts that may be true, but may be in a perspective of the writer. Maybe he owns a lot of gas stock.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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ChuckV

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#8 posted 177 days ago

And this doesn’t even get into the controversial practice of Fracking For Firewood and the random explosions of firewood storage, distribution and usage systems. It is well known that that after an earthquake in a populated area most of the damage and death is often caused by ruptured firewood pipelines.

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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HillbillyShooter

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#9 posted 177 days ago

I never ceased to be amazed at how humans managed to survive for thousands of years without being
enlightened by long winded, seudo intellectuals using multi-syllable words to pontificate on their view of a politically correct world.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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BJODay

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#10 posted 177 days ago

Here is something I learned in a Haz-Mat class:
If you can smell it, it is particulate. Think about this the next time someone farts in an elevator. Or the next time you drive past a foundry.

Everything in moderation. Personally I feel I gain more with an occasional wood fire, relaxation, companionship, stress relief.

BJ

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basswood

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#11 posted 177 days ago

This article is not scientific in the least. It makes blatantly misleading statements and misapplies facts out of context.

Where I live in the Twin Cities, detailed analysis of air quality attributes less than 3% of air pollution to wood smoke. That is the sort of context lacking in that piece of hysteria.

IIRC over half of the air pollution linked to the respiratory complaints mentioned are still from cars. Scientifically speaking we should all give the horrible automobile long before banning wood burning.

Also higher on the list is outdoor power equipment. No more lawnmowers or chain saws! Time to start grazing goats in our yards, I guess. Oh but they produce methane a potent green house gas. The horror.

ATV’s are also pollute more than wood burning. Forget snowmobiling.

The story fails to explain the gains in clean burning, EPA rated wood burning appliances.

I believe the social benefits of gathering around a fire are actually more important a contribution than ever in an increasingly fragmented society. Fires are good for connecting, conversing, bonding, solving the worlds problems. You know like how to deal with the really important issues of the day, not the over-hyped issues like the one here.

That article is a smokescreen, obscuring the real problems in our world.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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Knothead62

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#12 posted 177 days ago

You will die of something. How, when and where is a moot point. I want to be 90 years old and get shot by a jealous husband. :D My college buddy wanted to get run over by a beer truck.
One thing that the article doesn’t mention is the conditions in which the fuel is burned- confined areas, open rooms, etc. There are a lot of variables that should figure into the “study.” We have several houses around us that have either wood stoves or fireplaces. I have yet to detect it inside my home. Outside, it’s another story.

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Mauricio

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#13 posted 177 days ago

Yeah, I’m not going to stop burning firewood anytime soon. And I’m not going to stop charring my steaks ether even though it creates carcinogens, I dont do it that often, same as with burning wood.

Lets talk about how to burn more… I just read that its cool to burn pine in the fireplace, have you all heard the same? If so, thats great news for me because I have tons of it to burn. :-)

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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ChuckV

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#14 posted 177 days ago

Mauricio,

Here is a great site for information on heating with wood:
http://www.woodheat.org/

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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Gene Howe

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#15 posted 177 days ago

Maurico,
Pine=less heat and a quicker burn. But, it is heat! Just gotta feed it more often.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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