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Zuki

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1938 days ago

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I jumped back into the SU ring a couple of days before xmas. I watched a couple of tutorials and said ”enough of that, I want to sketch something”. I started sketching something for the Winter Awards and got completely frustrated.

I have now started back at square one with reading Betsy’s blog on SU and will supplement that with the video tutorials.

One thing that I have learned from LJs it that persistence is the key with SU.

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-- BLOG - http://www.colorfulcanary.com/search/label/Zuki


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Steelmum

355 posts in 2464 days


#1 posted 1938 days ago

I tried SU. I tried more than once. My favorite way is now a tablet, pencil, and eraser. Works fine, a small ruler is helpful too.

-- Berta in NC

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Todd A. Clippinger

8699 posts in 2601 days


#2 posted 1938 days ago

I have not had time to learn SU.

Please note the portfolio that I have built without it.

Spend more time in the shop working on your woodworking skills and less on SU.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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Russel

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#3 posted 1938 days ago

Zuki, I admire your ambition. I’ve tried SU a few times and am lured by the success of others here … then my hopes are dashed upon the reality of my inability. For the time being I’ve given up but look forward to your success.

-- Working at Woodworking http://www.VillageLaneFurniture.com

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CharlieM1958

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#4 posted 1938 days ago

I think it all depends on how you work. SU is a great tool for some folks. It bridges the gap between concept and reality. Others, like myself, prefer to visualize something in their heads and just start building.

A couple of times I’ve convinced myself to try learning SU, but I never have the patience to get anywhere. It’s kind of funny since I’m pretty computer savvy with several Adobe programs, as well as spreadsheets and relational databases.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Brad_Nailor

2527 posts in 2459 days


#5 posted 1938 days ago

C,mon now guys…lets not start SU bashing….It’s like anything else what you put into it is what you get out of it. Zuki where are you getting hemmed up? I would love to help you out if you want to explain whats messing you up….

-- http://www.facebook.com/pages/DSO-Designs/297237806954248

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bhack

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#6 posted 1938 days ago

I don’t think they were bashing SU. In the woodworking world there are people like me and Charlie that would rather not use it. I applaud anyone who persist in learning a new skill. I just don’t want to learn SU. As Berta said Graft paper, ruler, eraser, and pencil are wonderful tools. I spent many years in front of computer screen and now I want something else besides pixels.

Also Brad_Nailor thank you for all of your efforts in helping those that want to learn. Your expertise is invaluable to those learning the program.

-- Bill - If I knew GRANDKIDS were so much fun I would have had them first.

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Karson

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#7 posted 1938 days ago

I’ve played with some drawing programs in the past and I always have just given them up.

I’ve worked with computers and written computer programs. I started working with computers before they has schools that taught the stuff. You had to learn it from the vendor that created the hardware.

But, I’m happy with a story stick and a paper drawing. Now lets back to work creating something.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Tim Pursell

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#8 posted 1938 days ago

Don’t give up on SU. I’m by no means an expert, but I can muddle my way thru pretty well. I’ve tried other cad programs & gave up in frustration.
I’m 59 & never had any formal training. If I can use SU most any of you can do as well or better. Just start simple & build skills as you get comfortabe, just like “real woodworking” LOL

-- http://www.etsy.com/shop/tpursell?ref=si_shop

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Brad_Nailor

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#9 posted 1938 days ago

I know nobody was bashing…but I always have to come to the aid of one of my favorite drawing programs! I’m no expert but I am always am open to try and help anyone that wants to try and tackle it! Once you get over the learning curve it is really fun to use and provides instant gratification when designing a project.

-- http://www.facebook.com/pages/DSO-Designs/297237806954248

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mski

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#10 posted 1938 days ago

I have tried SU, Autocad, Other Cad’s, MS draw.
Like Berta I like my paper and pencil, and of course ERASER!
I have Template maker for My Incra Jig , love it, but comuter progams are like Video Games to me, 10 min in and I am ready to toss the computer out the window! Can’t get past the curve!
I will say though a plan (someone else made) with SU is awesome

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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bbqking

328 posts in 2225 days


#11 posted 1938 days ago

Some builders can visualize a finished product in their mind and make it happen. Others need a set of drawings to work from. SU is for those who feel more comfortable with a working “template” or “plan”. Myself, I can’t imagine taking the time to do it on the screen when I already know what I want. Give me Berta’s paper and pencil any day. No one built from SU before it was available, and they built lots of stuff back then. I’ll most likely be dragged over the coals for this but we should spend less time in front of the screen and more time in the shop. bbqKing.

-- bbqKing, Lawrenceville

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mski

411 posts in 2482 days


#12 posted 1938 days ago

Yes bbqking, more time in the shop, (and BBQ) hey wait what am I doing here?
I am jealous that some can build and update thier Website, use SU, go to work , find family time and still get more done in the shop than ME!!

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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Greg Wurst

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#13 posted 1938 days ago

I prefer to visualize and design my projects in Sketchup before proceeding to the shop. Helps save time and material for me. I can get an entire project build in less than an hour and it will save me that much time or more in the shop. It’s not that bad to learn once you put some time into it and watch some good tutorials. I learned a lot from the Gary Katz videos:

http://www.garymkatz.com/charts_drawings.html

The bookcase video was especially helpful. Not everyone needs or wants to learn a CAD program, but I find it very enjoyable. Mistakes are easy to fix and free and everything comes-out perfect on the PC. If only my actual projects went that well! :)

-- You're a unique and special person, just like everyone else.

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bbqking

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#14 posted 1938 days ago

Great post Greg.

-- bbqKing, Lawrenceville

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oldskoolmodder

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#15 posted 1938 days ago

I agree with Brad and Greg. IT does take time to learn, (I’ve already forgotten some of the things I first learned and haven’t used in a while), BUT, if you are persistent, you can make something out of it. My shop is an outdoor shop (for the time being), so my shop time is based on the weather. When I’m not working my regular job, I have a lot of down time and so I end up designing my hopefully future projects in S.U. I want to know the best use of the wood, before I start to hacking away and waste lots of money and time not getting anything done. S.U. helps ME do that.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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