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MJCD

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186 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: flex hose dust collection

Can someone identify a good source for 6” ID flex hose?

I know this sounds crazy simple: many, many companies sell 6” flex hose. Recently, I purchased 25’ from Wynn – upon receipt, I found that nothing fits in or over their hose: it measures 5.7” internally, so couplings (sleeves) and starting collars don’t work.

To be frank, I’m not interested in homegrown solutions – people using thin wood strips to coax the flex hose onto something; cutting starting collars to further compress the fitting’s-end; or using a roll of duct tape to make it work.

I have the 6” sleeves, I have the 6” starting collars – what I need is Flex Hose that is 6” ID, or otherwise meant to be used, as is, on associated hardware.

I apologize if this seems a ‘rant’, but I have $2,000 invested in a dust collection system which isn’t hooked to a woodworking machine.

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MJCD

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pmayer

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#1 posted 186 days ago

I purchased mine from Grizzly (10 years ago) and it is nice stuff but I don’t know if it was a full 6” ID. I have to cut slits in 6” PVC pipe to squeeze it into the flex hose, but it only takes a couple minutes to do so. The flex hose fits perfectly into a 6” PVC coupler, which makes for a simple “quick disconnect” fitting.

I would check with Clear Vue as well, as those guys are more likely to know the exact specs of their flex hose, and probably have some sitting right there to check it for you.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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b2rtch

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#2 posted 186 days ago

I have one you can have free if you come get it.
It’s about 25’ long, I got with me Clear View and I have no use for it

-- Bert

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crank49

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#3 posted 186 days ago

http://www.mcmaster.com/#56435k36/=qfqjd2
Link to McMaster Carr 6 inch I.D. hose for saw dust and similar.

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djwong

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#4 posted 186 days ago

I purchased the PVC25 model flex from Wynn a couple of years ago. I was able to slip it over a 6” fitting from Oneida just fine.

A trick I read about is to make a cut in the steel spiral through the plastic and pull the wire out through the end. You can pull out 2 or 3 windings at a time. Then you can then stretch the wireless pipe section over your fitting.

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MJCD

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#5 posted 185 days ago

Great Answers – everyone; and THANKS.

Djwong – I’ll try this. I measured the ID wire to opposed wire. The thought of eliminating the wire for the first several inches is a nice wrinkle. I did find that the #2729 PVC coupling (opposite of a sleeve, this goes over the piping) has the same ID as the Wynn flex hose OD: so it’s a tight fit this way.

b2rtch: the hose I have is probably the same as yours – it’s the one Clearvue recommended to me – though, I purchased it directly from Wynn.

Thanks, again.
MJCD

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MJCD

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#6 posted 185 days ago

Update:

I sent a picture to Wynn Environmental which showed the ID at 5.7”. Evidently, my e-mail was sent to Rick Wynn, who then went to the warehouse to check on un-shipped product from the same manufacturing run. I received an e-mail from Rick – very apologetic, very customer-focused – a batch was received from the manufacturer which was too narrow, and a new, correct shipment is on its way to me.

My hats off to Wynn Environmental – that’s the way to take care of business. Both Wynn & Clearvue have been exceptional to deal with – they do set the standard.
MJCD

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MedicKen

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#7 posted 184 days ago

http://www.blastgateco.com/index.php

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hcstoops

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#8 posted 184 days ago

I just got through installing my DC system and found the same problem. I also got my flex from Wynn and Clear View.
I have three different weights of flex from Wynn. One is the heavy stuff, one a light weight one with copper colored wire in it, and the third is the one like Clearview sells. I like the copper wire one the best.

The way I solved the problem was to go to Lowes and buy a 3’ length of stove pipe. It fits inside the flex. Then I cut short lengths ,pop riveted them ,and slid them inside the flex and then I used 1/2” long washer head sheet metal screws to keep them from sliding off. The part sticking out slides inside a 6”PVC pipe. Lowes also sells the 6”stovepipe thimbles or couplings but they cost a little more.

The 4” diameter flex gave me fits too . It seems that there are a bunch of different 4” dimensions in both the flex and fittings. I found that a heat gun is the way to solve that problem. I went to Harbor freight and got one and it really does wonders to that flex plastic. It makes a limp noodle out of it fast and it can be stretched over any fitting.

Herb

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MJCD

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#9 posted 183 days ago

hcstoops:

I’m awaiting the replacement hose, from Wynn, and will see what I get. I have some ugly alternatives if the replacement hose yields problems: for one, the current hose OD fits tightly into the 2729 PVC connector (over, rather than in) – I could sheet-metal screw this for a permanent solution; then, there’s always duct tape!.

I have to admit that I’m disappointed in the Clearvue/Wynn hose DC solution: the CV1800 was more of an erector-set than I imagined, and the fit and finish/MDF nature of the housings was underwhelming. Then, the struggle getting connections to the machines. I’m wondering if I should have opted for the Oneida… – their Super Dust Deputy was and is a great investment, and I assume their full-blow systems are top notch (the comparable unit was several $hundred more than the Clearvue.

So far, Wynn has been excellent to deal with, as has Clearvue, and I’ll give everyone a chance to do the right thing.

MJCD

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MJCD

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#10 posted 183 days ago

Final update.

Rick Wynn, owner of Wynn Environmental, sent me an e-mail two days ago, yesterday, and today – first, appreciative of Customer Feedback, and he’d look into it; second, that he did look into it, and found a supplier issue, and that it would be corrected, quickly; third, today, to let me know to expect the replacement hose – today. The hose did arrive around noon. The replacement hose does fit over the couplers, and I’m now good-to-go. You can not ask for better customer service than this….

MJCD

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Woodwrestler

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#11 posted 182 days ago

Bought mine from wynnenv.com just send an email with what you want and they will call and get your credit card info. Prices where better than most. For blast gates and 6” to 4” transitions I used ClearVue’s stuff. Works very well but is optimized for 6” Sewer and Drain PVC which I use.

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hcstoops

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#12 posted 182 days ago

I found the Wynn flex went inside the 6 “PVC bells and couplings, if I grabbed it with some pliers from the other end thru the coupling and jockyed it in one side then the other. took a little effort. then I used a washer head sheet metal screw to “nail” it in there.

Wow ! goes over the coupling? what do you do on the machine end to hook it up?

I also had very good results when I talked to Rick Wynn on the phone and placed my order for filters and hose and accessories. I bought my blast gates , 6”,4”hose, hangers, and hose clamps at the Clear View factory when they were here, before they relocated to N.C. Even got a tour of the factory and watched them form the cyclones and cut out all the parts. Very impressive operation. And Paul ,one of the owners took the time to show me around, good folks.
Herb

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MJCD

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#13 posted 182 days ago

Herb:

The non-spec product fits tightly inside an ASTM 2729 coupling; the spec product goes over a normal HVAC 6” starter sleeve – just to be clear.

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Bob Current

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#14 posted 167 days ago

I feel everyone’s pain on this subject. I want my DC system to match the work I’ve done all my life and it’s a challenge.
I use PVC because I have it in our shop.
Hose is the challenge.
I’ve found a simple heat gun or possibly blow dryer does wonders for massaging ID’s and even OD’s.
I don’t use screws as they restrict air flow.
I’ve been able to use Fernco rubber adapters mixed with no hub pipe clamps as well, again I have them on hand.
You should strive to make your system accessible for cleaning and inspection.
I’ve found Bill Pentz’s website very useful, this gentleman has devoted his life to this subject and I share of his medical reasons for getting this stuff right.
Good Luck to All.

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