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b2rtch

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182 days ago

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I just discovered epoxy finish for wood.
At work all our floors are finished with epoxy but I never tried it on wood.
I built a farm table out of old beams.
I think that this would have been a perfect finish for it.
I have questions:
How well does it resist outside, under the rain ,snow , sun, etc?
Can I sand my existing lacquer finish on my farm table and then apply the epoxy finish on the top of it?
What do you do about the edges?
Do you have favorite brand?
How difficult is it to do the first time?
Do you use a brush, a putty knife or a rubber squeegee?
Thank you for your help.
Bertrand

-- Bert


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distrbd

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#1 posted 182 days ago

Bert,I also am interested in using epoxy on my coffee table top ,bought a product called Enviontex-Lite recommended by a woodworker friend,according to him it does not have a strong odor but the shop temperature has to be above 65°(maintained overnight) otherwise it will not cure properly .
I have found a few “bar top epoxy” video clips on youtube that shows how it’s done,seems easy enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuXkhWNlIMk

-- Ken from Ontario

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bbc557ci

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#2 posted 182 days ago

Interesting question, Bert. In the process of trimming out my house I’d like to use a clear finish on a couple of long window sills (little over 10 ft. each) that will be used to set plants on. I was considering clear epoxy as I know it’s durable. That said, I’ve been told epoxy will dull/fade when exposed to direct sunlight.

Sorry for no help, and I probably just added to your list of questions.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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bondogaposis

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#3 posted 182 days ago

My understanding of epoxy finish is that it is not UV resistant. When I have used it in outdoor applications I have either painted it or top coated w/ a UV inhibitor varnish.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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b2rtch

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#4 posted 182 days ago

I would also be interested in applying an epoxy coating on my concrete floor in the shop, but I am afraid that it is quite expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09mhf1eXPQ

-- Bert

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rockindavan

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#5 posted 182 days ago

I have to make some finish some marine plywood for parts on a boat. I haven’t done it before with epoxy, but have planned on using West Systems. They have a separate clear hardener for using it as a finish. Hopefully someone out there has done it to share their experience. My understanding is you need to make sure the wood is as dry as it is going to get. Once it is epoxied, moisture is not going in or out. Also I have heard of coating it after with spar varnish to give a bit more UV protection.

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madts

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#6 posted 182 days ago

Epoxy does not like sunlight. The epoxy finish has to be painted or varnished. You can also put carbon fiber or some aluminium powder in the final coat. That will also give you the sun protection you will need. WEST systems sell those products.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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retfr8flyr

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#7 posted 182 days ago

Epoxy doesn’t do well outdoors, it will yellow with sun exposure, as it isn’t UV resistant. If you cover it with a good UV resistant urethane then it will hold off any yellowing for several years.

I did my garage floor in epoxy last summer and if you do it right it is fairly expensive but I think the results are worth it. My floor ended up costing me about $3.50 sq ft but I did max flakes, those things are expensive and 2 urethane top coats. I looked at all the options for flooring, porcelain tile, PVC tiles, roll on mats and such. I love my floor and I am very glad I did the epoxy. It not only looks great it makes cleanup a breeze, spill some coatings, just wipe it up nothing sticks to the floor.

Here are a couple of shots on how the floor came out.

-- Earl

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b2rtch

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#8 posted 182 days ago

That would be around $3000 to do my shop floor,way to much money for me.

-- Bert

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bbc557ci

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#9 posted 182 days ago

Dittos Bert. Mine is 26×36. 936 SF so no epoxy floor for me.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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Monte Pittman

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#10 posted 182 days ago

With the epoxies I have used, they don’t hold up well at all outside. I am not sure if they make one that will.

Side note, I do all of my tables and bartops with epoxy and love it.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it. - It's not ability that we often lack, but the patience to use our ability

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whitebeast88

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#11 posted 182 days ago

http://www.aeromarineproducts.com/

i’ve looked at several things on this site but haven’t bought anything yet.hope it helps.

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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redryder

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#12 posted 182 days ago

As it applies to wood only:

I have used Enviortex two part epoxy many times for table tops, plaques, picture frames etc.

Envirotex is the one that most woodworkers will find in lumber yards, craft stores and box stores. It is easy to use once you know what you are doing. This is a good product to try out “small” first. It is a product that you have to have all the preparation elements ready before the job begins. Leveling, mixing quickly, pouring quickly, flood coating, ready for the runoff, eliminating the bubbles, recoating if necessary. You can pour it over most anything such as photos, bottle caps, keepsakes, etc. The finish will be about 1/8 inch thick but the surface must be sealed to keep the top stable and the bubbles from forming and leaving uneven results. Flood coating most likely would be needed for something like a “farm table built out of old beams”. I don’t find this product to be that cheap and I try not to waste any of it. That’s why knowing what you are doing before you tackle a big project may be wise. But the results can be GREAT.

This product dries and cures like plastic. Think of sealing a piece of wood in plastic and then leaving it outside in the elements. The wood will expand in the wet winter and contract in the dry summer. The attached photo is a cedar burl I did years ago. It was perfect all the years I kept it inside as a coffee table and you can see the results after being left outside. The weather is not your friend with this product….................

-- mike...............

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b2rtch

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#13 posted 182 days ago

Thank you all for your replies but it will not work for what I wanted to do with it ( outside).

-- Bert

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Texcaster

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#14 posted 182 days ago

A clear finish out in the weather is always a problem, ask any boat owner. Most guarantees won’t be for more than a season or two. Even under cover I use an oil base, for maintenance scuff and add more oil. I don’t guarantee anything out in the weather, even under cover.

Now I don’t even bother with maintenance, I embrace grey. I’m not trying to convert you to grey.

-- Bill....... I listen very closely to the timber and then impose my will.

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retfr8flyr

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#15 posted 182 days ago

Bert there are a lot of epoxy options that can be done for a lot less then mine. I also included all the grinder rental and other tools and storage costs in my total. If you want to get a better idea on cost, give this guy a call and he can answer all your questions.

__

“Scotty”

Web Site: http://www.legacyindustrial.net/cart/
Phone: 1-888-652-0333
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/legacyindustrial

-- Earl

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