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Forum topic by redmosquito1 posted 01-26-2014 06:56 AM 751 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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redmosquito1

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01-26-2014 06:56 AM

Hello all, looking for some help I.D.ing a red bodied #4 plane I got on ebay.

There is no names stamped on the plane body, frog, iron or lever cap. There are some numbers stamped on the underside of the lever cap though. No casting marks to identify the foundry typically found on my other stanley planes.

The No. 4 is stamped on the toe in front of the knob like stanley did. The frog looks like an early bailey frog, but it came with what I believe was a replacement alignment lever since it was hardley in there (removed with my hands, no tools)

The tote has 2 screws in it unlike my other #4s, similar to what my #5s have.

I’ll get pictures posted later on, I’m just curious if anyone knows off hand if any plane manufacturer used red japanning. Based on the rust it wasn’t a recent repaint, after a few days in my electrolysis tank almost all of the red came free except some stubborn spots; but it doesn’t look like it had black under it ever.

It’s an unkown to me, any help would be great.

Thanks


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#1 posted 01-26-2014 07:38 AM

Without seeing a picture reflex is to say Craftsman. However if someone was partial to red paint any plane is possible.

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#2 posted 01-26-2014 07:48 AM

I have a Dunlap that has a red frog on it as well. We need pictures to be sure what you have.

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redmosquito1

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#3 posted 01-26-2014 11:39 PM

Sorry for the delay got called into work this morning, but here are some pics.

This is the bed, I haven’t seen any pictures of the are where the frog mounts that looks like this on a stanley, there is a little red/maroon color left here

This is the sole, lightly cleaned up haven’t lapped it flat really just a quick pass on the disc sander to clean it up

This is the frog, there is a little more maroon/red here that you can see, but again no markings

The toe

this is the tote, looks to me as if the tote is to short and there was a screw that was in that hole but is since misplaced.

Again, no markings on this thing at all except the no 4 on the toe and this on the lever cap

I don’t what it could be.

Any help? Thanks

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Don W

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#4 posted 01-27-2014 12:00 AM

I can’t see the pictures, but Ohio Tools had red japanning for a while. I’ve got a few. See some history here, http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com/ohio-tools-collections/

Edit: And other than Record (and its not a Record) that had a zero in front of the number like 04.

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redmosquito1

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#5 posted 01-27-2014 12:33 AM

That looks just like this one, thanks Don.

Not sure why the pictures aren’t showing up though they do for me. Maybe I didn’t do it right? Still figuring this site out.

So, no blade came with this plane, is there any value to it? I only paid $20 for it.

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#6 posted 01-27-2014 12:43 AM

It may have been me, I can see them now. I’d say its an Ohio Tool’s. As to value, $20 wasn’t a steel, but I’m a sucker for Ohio tools to. I just paid $18 for a 05, I’ve got 2 or 3 and when I started cleaning it up I found it was broke.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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