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Forum topic by TheDane posted 01-25-2014 11:33 PM 3906 views 0 times favorited 198 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TheDane

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01-25-2014 11:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question problem

Just curious … what does anybody think the purpose of the ’LumberJocks.com Site Feedback’ forum is?

It is not intended for us to criticize those who post forum topics dealing with problems like the current mess the site is in.

To quote from the Forum itself: ”Connect with the Website Gurus and tell us what you are thinking, suggestions, problems, functionality issues, and so forth. We want to help you make this the best and widest used Woodworking Community Site available.”

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"


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#1 posted 01-25-2014 11:49 PM

IMHO:

1. To present New Ideas and Suggestions.

2. To report website Problems.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#2 posted 01-26-2014 12:21 AM

Whatever the purpose is supposed to be; it is operationally like sending email to /dev/null.
They don’t reply, they don’t acknowledge any site issues, and they may not care.
I imagine some BOFH watching the posts, laughing and thinking how superb their destruction of the UI experience on this site has been lately.
;-(

-- Gary, Florida. http://www.penturners.org/forum/f70/servicepens-2014-a-111967/

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#3 posted 01-26-2014 01:03 AM

-- “While the world with closed eyes sleeps, The sky knows and weeps - steel rain. ” ― Nathan Bell

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#4 posted 01-26-2014 01:05 AM

For the past 10 years I have owned a small Internet company. In that time I’ve learned about 1% of what there is to know about this stuff – I depend heavily on others to write the code and maintain the various sites under my control. But with as little as I know, I can tell you with certainty that this site’s technical problems over the past several weeks are easy to fix for someone of very modest ability.

What that tells me is that this site is in the hands of an amateur (or multiple amateurs).

Having said that, however, I want to quickly add that the technical problems don’t bother me. I liked the site before and I like the site now.

I don’t have any idea what the traffic counts of this site might be, and I’m not privy to any ad contracts the owner might have. But I suspect the site does not generate a huge amount of revenue.

On the other hand, Gary could be right. There might be some BOFH (even though I don’t know what that stands for) getting his kicks out of watching the thing go down.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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#5 posted 01-26-2014 01:11 AM

Guess they are just going to have to raise our membership fees. It would be the first rate increase in the 3 yrs I have been here…so there is always that.

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#6 posted 01-26-2014 01:16 AM

I can’t even imagine how much crying would be going on if we had to pay to be here.

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#7 posted 01-26-2014 01:59 AM

feedback is often there for legal reasons and from the template this site was built upon.

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#8 posted 01-26-2014 02:04 AM

Gerry, I agree with you. I do understand that “stuff” happens but if someone would tell us what’s going on and what to expect, it would make the problems more palatable.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#9 posted 01-26-2014 02:13 AM

dont panic

and don’t worry

sooner or later

your time to contribute

will end

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

p

T.O.D. ?

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#10 posted 01-26-2014 02:16 AM

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#11 posted 01-26-2014 02:21 AM

This website has always run pretty lean on support; Martin always seemed to try to take care of it, from the other side of the world from me. People have left due to some nastiness in years past; that is their loss. The internet can be a pretty nasty place. People just have to adjust. It may be that the site isn’t providing enough cash flow for those who now run it to do proper maintenance/oversight, or to pay enough people to do the maintenance. Bear in mind that I don’t see that there is much of a problem, for a free-to-the-user website; I agree with Kevin.

Gary-BOHF? Really? A couple of hiccups on the front page? GAL.

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#12 posted 01-30-2014 12:03 AM

DL,
> Bear in mind that I don’t see that there is much of a problem, for a free-to-the-user website…
LJs is a business like any other website. It’s about advertising revenue for the owners.
Guess what generates the revenue?
The great projects posted by the talented artisans and the good information posted by folks like Sheila Landry and her scroll-saw blogs.
The user input is what makes the site grow, attracts others, and forms a base for selling advertising.
In effect, we make the site beneficial for the owners.
Thus, one would think they would take a look at the problems and fix ‘em.

> Gary-BOHF? Really? A couple of hiccups on the front page? GAL.
You’re joking right. Ever write any code? Ever do any development? Sure, I’m being tongue-in-cheek when I use BOHF but one has to wonder why they haven’t done anything to fix the site.
In today’s environment, there is no reason what so ever to (a) do development on a test site rather than the production (live) version and (b) use a repository like UberSVN, Git, or whatever you need so when the programmer screws up the interface, it’s an easy matter of restoring the previous working version.

TMTOWTDI.

-- Gary, Florida. http://www.penturners.org/forum/f70/servicepens-2014-a-111967/

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#13 posted 01-30-2014 12:15 AM

Gary is spot on.

Despite assurances from JuanM that they are working on it, the site is still broken.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#14 posted 01-30-2014 01:04 AM

Dane

I guess they do not remember when contributions were needed to help this site keep going.

Arlin

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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TheDane

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#15 posted 01-30-2014 01:10 AM

Arlin—I think to Martin, the site was a labor of love. I’m not sure what it is to the current owners.

It is a shame.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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