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Forum topic by garberfc posted 01-23-2014 02:42 PM 2445 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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garberfc

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01-23-2014 02:42 PM

I’ve had the nailer for a few months now and just tried it on some cherry and found that the pins are not clearing the surface of the top piece of wood!

I’m nailing a 1/2” cherry baseboard onto a 3/4” cherry face frame. After shooting a few pins I ran my hand over the pins and I can feel them protruding from the surface! Very disappointing.

The manual says the pressure should be between 80-100psi. I even jacked it up to 120psi and saw the same results.

I have a couple of questions:
  1. Are there any other owners of this pinner, and what are your experiences like?
  2. Are there any owners of other pinners, and what are your experiences like?

Thanks in advance,
F


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tefinn

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#1 posted 01-23-2014 04:31 PM

Your air pressure has nothing to do with the depth of the pin nails and running the gun at a higher than recommended pressure will blow out the seals. You need to adjust the depth setting on the gun.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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Earlextech

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#2 posted 01-23-2014 04:48 PM

Right out of the owners manual -

Drive a test fastener with the air pressure set at 80-85 psi. Raise or lower the air pressure to find the lowest setting that will perform the job with consistent results.
It may be possible to achieve the desired depth with air pressure adjustments alone. If finer adjustments are needed, use the drive depth adjustment on the tool.
drive depth ADJUSTMENT
See Figure 10.
The pinner is factory-set to its maximum depth.The driving depth of the fastener may be adjusted to a more shallow depth. It is advisable to test the depth on a scrap workpiece to determine the required depth for the application.
To determine depth of drive, first adjust the air pressure and drive a test fastener.
NOTE: Fasteners of more than 1-3/16 in. in length may not drive flush in dense woods.
To fine-adjust to a shallower depth of drive:
 Disconnect the tool from the air supply.
 Using a 3 mm hex key, loosen the two bolts on the front plate. Do not remove the bolts.
 Slide the front plate toward the nose slightly. Adjustment is accomplished with very little movement of the front plate.
 The plate should be positioned so that it cannot slip over the bolts.
 Tighten the bolts securely with the hex key.
 Reconnect the tool to the air supply.
 Drive a test fastener

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

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basswood

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#3 posted 01-23-2014 05:35 PM

Ridgid air nailers are generally known to have problems setting nails in hardwoods (not sure of the 23 ga. pinner in particular). Cherry is not typically hard enough to cause these problems though. Usually woods like hickory or hard maple are the culprits.

The above mentioned adjustments may do the trick. Also make sure you are holding the gun very firmly against the work piece. Sometimes it helps to hold a gun that is not adequately setting pins down against the work with both hands. Left hand pushing down right over the driver housing (if you are right handed). Push too hard and you may mar the cherry though.

A last ditch solution for some 23 ga. pinners that are not setting pins is to actually grind down the contact tip slightly (by about 1/64 to 1/32”). Measures like that are extreme though and will void any warranty you may have. It was a common fix for old PC pinners though.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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pintodeluxe

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#4 posted 01-23-2014 05:44 PM

Fasco pinners get great reviews. So do Grex and Cadex brands. The big advantage is you can use pins up to 2” long.

I have heard others complain about this issue with the Ridgid pinner as well.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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bladeburner

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#5 posted 01-23-2014 07:14 PM

Did you run some oil through the gun?

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basswood

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#6 posted 01-23-2014 09:53 PM

A tip for 23 ga. pins that are not flush…

...remove the remaining pins from the magazine (make sure there is not a stray or two still left in there).

Then place the tip of the gun over the top of the offending pin and “dry fire” the pinner.

This will countersink the pin for you.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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garberfc

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#7 posted 01-23-2014 09:59 PM

To: tefinn – Me the dumb@$$, I looked but didn’t see the adjustment mechanism on the nailer. I had the manual out to see about the pressure, but didn’t think to look for the adjuster! :-(

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garberfc

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#8 posted 01-23-2014 10:02 PM

To: bladeburner; I dropped a drops when I first used the gun. It’s seen very little use.

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basswood

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#9 posted 01-23-2014 10:07 PM

Another rookie mistake with 23 ga. pins is putting them in upside down, because they are headless it is an easy mistake to make.

Not that you did that. Just another thing worth mentioning.

Of course, these days you have to ignore the arrows printed on the collated pins to do that. Still, it happens occasionally.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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Domer

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#10 posted 01-23-2014 10:14 PM

I bought the Rigid 23 gauge pin nailer and had the same problem. I returned to to Home Depot and bought the Grex. It was a lot more expensive but set nails in walnut with no problem.

I have a couple of other Rigid nailers and have not had problems with it them.

It seems that the 23 guage pin nailers are more difficult to make work than other nailers.

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oxyoke

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#11 posted 01-23-2014 10:24 PM

portercaple works good for me

-- Bill Byron Center MI

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