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01-23-2014 01:52 PM

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After what happened last week to Monte and because of another thread, I am thinking about installing a wireless fire, smoke,security system.
My shop is separated from my house and anything can happen in it with out me ever knowing it.
I use a wood stove in my shop and more and more people know about my shop and the tools inside.
I think that little prevention is good idea.
Do you have any experience with such systems?
What are your recommendation?
I am looking at system such as this one on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZR4K2S/ref=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1NN97YRT0PK5RHKZ3Y1W&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846

Thank you for reading.

-- Bert


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#1 posted 01-23-2014 03:17 PM

no answer!

-- Bert

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#2 posted 01-23-2014 04:00 PM

I think a fire alarm would be a nice option, but I have a 64 pound four legged alarm system that protects mine, along with locked gates

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#3 posted 01-23-2014 04:02 PM

Bert all you really need is this guy right here from Harbor freight.

I use this same thing to protect my cars and cargo trailer out front, works great!

Alarm

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#4 posted 01-23-2014 04:07 PM

Randy thank you for your answer but,in my shop,I am mostly concerned about fire and my wife would like a security system in the house.
I have a dog also.

-- Bert

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#5 posted 01-23-2014 04:28 PM

Bert what you posted seems to be a pretty good deal, does it require a monthly service fee for an off site company provider to monitor system?

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#6 posted 01-23-2014 04:35 PM

Randy, Professional Monitoring Option (Additional Service Required)
This is just an example. There are may such systems on Amazon, some with better ratings.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_72_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3AWireless+Home+Security+System%2Cp_72%3A1248879011&keywords=Wireless+Home+Security+System&ie=UTF8&qid=1390494948&rnid=1248877011

-- Bert

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#7 posted 01-23-2014 04:48 PM

Are you wanting something that would dial the fire department too? If that’s the case, you’ll need something monitored.

If you’re willing to go that route, I have a system from SafeMart that I absolutely love. You pay up front for the system, but there’s no monthly contracts or anything. It’s pretty neat. I accidentally set off the smoke detectors last week when I was cooking something a little too smoky indoors. I was able to disable the alarm, but within 30 seconds they were talking to me on the speaker (it’s got 2-way voice) verifying that I had meant to cancel the alarm.

Your situation sounds very much like the one I was in. I really wanted it for fire monitoring more than anything, the security was a throw-in. Feel free to PM me for more details if you’re interested. Or I can post here if you want me to. Didn’t really want to turn your thread into an ad for someone.

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#8 posted 01-23-2014 05:10 PM

gtbuzz, please post here so that more people can read it if interested.
Thank you.

-- Bert

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#9 posted 01-23-2014 05:49 PM

I like the concept of the system on Amazon, but the reviews didn’t look very favorable. What happened to Monte has prompted me to sit down with my insurance agent to make sure everything will be covered in the event of an accident and if a fire and/or security system would do anything to reduce my premium. In the mean time, I put a second fire extinguisher in my shop for a little more piece of mind.

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#10 posted 01-23-2014 06:05 PM

I also have two large fire extinguisher but I f I am not there to use them they do me no good.
A guess that a sprinkler system then would be an,expensive, solution and it does not protect from breakins

-- Bert

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#11 posted 01-23-2014 06:28 PM

My security system is a sticker on the door that says,”this door is locked for your protection”. That said, I also have 4 cameras around the house that covers the shop as well. If a break-in occur, it will be captured and stored for 5 days. Downside to that is an intruder might choose to burn the building to get rid of the recording. Neighborhood watch maybe an option. As it relates to fires, I am not sure if you have ever used your fire extinguishers or not; they spit out very little fluid, dust to put out a small fire. In case of Monty, fire extinguishers have no chance to put out a fire with winds over 50 miles an hour. I have a wood stove in the shop as well as in the house. As the shop is concerned, the stove goes on early in the morning and reloaded as needed 4 hours before quitting time. At quitting time, there are just a few coals left in there and everything is closed before leaving the shop. I am contemplating to get an outdoor boiler that serve both the house and the shop; just need 8 G’s. A guard dog in that spend the nights at the shop might be your best security system at night; camera is a good choice for days.
Hope that helps.

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#12 posted 01-23-2014 06:33 PM

Thank you.

-- Bert

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#13 posted 01-23-2014 07:55 PM

Bert, I put a security and fire alarm system in my shop. It has a built in cell phone that automatically dials the police and/or fire department if it detects a fire or intrusion. The alarm people also interact with the system. It’s the same type of system that I have in my home. It’s a reasonable monthly fee and also got me a better rate on my insurance policy.

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#14 posted 01-23-2014 08:07 PM

Charles, which brand , which company?

-- Bert

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#15 posted 01-23-2014 08:20 PM

I used to do this for a living. here are a couple of pointers:

1. I would recommend to stay away from “wireless” systems. go for a wired sensors system – less maintenance, less chances of failures (low batteries, physical stability/reliability).

2. large (nationwide) monitoring services change an arm and a leg and provide very little to no service when it comes time to repair/maintain your system (sometimes they will overcharge you for additional ‘repairs’) – try to find a local monitoring service in your home town. chances are you’ll get better rates and service- shop around. nobody here could give you this answer.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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