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Mainiac Matt

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01-22-2014 08:38 PM

Topic tags/keywords: lock miter joint large

When I completed my oldest daughters NYWS hope chest, the side and end panels were connected with a tongue and groove joint, per the plan. But the joint didn’t close tight 100% on one of the corners, and my attempts to fill the tiny, tiny gap with sawdust and glue didn’t pan out.

I’m going to be making a second chest for daughter #2 soon, and am looking for skill builder modifications. So I picked up a lock miter bit, thinking I would solve my corner gap problems and lose the seam line completely.

But now I’m having second thoughts. It seems lock miters are usually used for small boxes, and even drawers, but would a chest edge be too long? and make assembly a challenge?

Here’s a screen shot of the computer model to illustrate the original design and length of the edge.

And this is what I’m thinking about doing….

Is this too long for a lock miter joint?

Has anyone done a corner this long with a lock miter bit?

If so, any assembly tips?

Should I consider ripping at 45 deg. on the TS and then using biscuits to align the panels and add strength?

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 01-22-2014 10:13 PM

Sure you can. I do 30 inch long one all the time. I’ve done them up to 8 foot long.

Have to go to work now but if you want I could post a picture of the 30’’ and 8 foot long one.

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#2 posted 01-22-2014 10:33 PM

We used to make faux distressed wooden beams this way. 18” long. Just go for it.

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#3 posted 01-22-2014 10:34 PM

I have used both locking miters and miters reinforced with biscuits. I like the locking miter better, because the joint really locks together. I recommend leaving the part extra long to cut the locking miter. That way, if you get a little snipe at the router table you can simply trim it off.
Also, making the cut in multiple passes by adjusting the router fence is a great help.
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#4 posted 01-22-2014 10:39 PM

Matt, I’m with Willie. I use locking miter locks on pie safes and such. Nice joint. Good idea to cut it a little long.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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casual1carpenter

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#5 posted 01-22-2014 10:53 PM

Matt, I to have used the lock miter on longer pieces and it makes a good joint. The issues which I had were operator error and stupid. As far as the operator error, take your time and dimensioned stock to get the set up right. As for the stupid, let me say that the pieces need a good S4S, I thought that my stock was good enough with sort of S4S before the jointer and planer came along.

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#6 posted 01-22-2014 11:16 PM

Matt, I use a lock miter from time to time and have never made a bad joint with it. It gives you a good glue surface and a tight joint whether it is a corner or a panel joint…..

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Mainiac Matt

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#7 posted 01-22-2014 11:44 PM

Thanks for the replies guys.

I’ve discussed it with daughter #2 and we’re going with lock miter corners and raised panels on her Hope Chest.

Nothing like a challenge to motivate me for a project :^)

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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basswood

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#8 posted 01-23-2014 12:13 AM

It will help if you use feather boards holding stock both down tight to the table and to the fence. This will help you get a consistently milled lock miter so it goes together nicely.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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