When did Poplar become a hardwood

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01-21-2014 08:19 PM

Sorry folks for the stupd guastion but when did poplar become a hardwood.I was just infromed by google that poplar is a hardwood.Im lost all thsos years that I work and was tot that poplar was a softwood can some one help. Thanks David Dean

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#1 posted 01-21-2014 08:24 PM

I always thought it was a medium wood…either a harder softwood or a softer hardwood…however you want to call it.

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#2 posted 01-21-2014 08:25 PM

It’s always been a “hardwood”. Softwood’s are conifers (needles, not leaves).

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#3 posted 01-21-2014 08:28 PM

Needles on the tree (conifers) means softwood, leaves means hardwood. Not all hardwood is ‘harder’ than softwood… balsa by definition is a hardwood.

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#4 posted 01-21-2014 08:41 PM

When it got leaves.

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#5 posted 01-21-2014 08:44 PM

Smitty got it right.. its a classification, not a description .

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#6 posted 01-21-2014 08:51 PM

That’s an easy one .when it lost it leaves , a great web site for wood iD. Is I Teach woodworking classes and this is one of my favorite web sites to get info on wood .

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#7 posted 01-21-2014 08:56 PM

Coniferous vs deciduouse ?

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#9 posted 01-21-2014 09:00 PM

In Australia” hardwood ” is generic for gums or eucalyptus because most of it gives hard a new meaning.

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#10 posted 01-21-2014 11:00 PM

Thanks everyone I thought I would ask before I put my foot in it. But poplar dosent cut like a hardwood and I always used course thread scerws.Well you learn somthing new every day. Thanks again

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#11 posted 01-21-2014 11:55 PM


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#12 posted 01-22-2014 12:03 AM

Generally speaking, deciduous trees are referred to as hardwoods and coniferous trees are referred to as softwoods. In reality it’s not quite that simple. Some conifers (e.g western larch) are deciduous, and many broadleaf trees in southern latitudes (i.e. the tropics) keep their leaves year round. Why does life have to be so complicated? ;-)

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#13 posted 01-22-2014 12:48 AM

Balsa is a hardwood too. It has nothing to do w/ hardness. Deciduous trees are considered hardwoods for marketing purposes and conifers are softwoods.

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#14 posted 01-22-2014 12:54 AM

Even worse “Poplar” is not even a true poplar. Aspens and Cottonwoods are poplars (Populus species).

The wood sold as “poplar” is called Yellow Poplar or Tulip Poplar, but it is a Liriodendron species and is actually in the Magnolia family which does not include the true poplars.

Poplars are even softer than members of the Magnolia family.


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#15 posted 01-22-2014 01:00 PM

The wood sold as “poplar” is called Yellow Poplar or Tulip Poplar, but it is a Liriodendron species and is actually in the Magnolia family which does not include the true poplars.

Would’t that depend on where you live?

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