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01-19-2014 12:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question

I am an amateur woodworker to say the least, but I have the opportunity to purchase a powermatic 66-ta saw. I have’t seen it in person but It sounds like the guy just needs to get rid of it because he is moving. He is only asking $650 for it. Is this deal to good to be true or not. Also I do not currently have 220v outlet, but I know an electrician who can install it for me for $150. What do you think?

http://peoria.craigslist.org/tls/4292653866.html


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#1 posted 01-19-2014 12:19 PM

It’s 3 phase, so will need a converter of some sort or a different motor. Could still be a good deal, but total cost just went up another $200-$300.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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hydro

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#2 posted 01-19-2014 02:27 PM

Replacing the motor with a 3 HP 220V single phase motor will run about $400.00 for the motor and parts (Ebay). Add another $150 if you need an electrician to do the re-wiring. If you know what you are doing you can re-use the existing 3 phase magnetic starter, but it needs to be re-wired as well (it has a single phase coil). Swapping the motor is a couple of hours of wrenching but not too bad, much easier if you take the table off and do it from above. While you are under the saw, take it apart and clean the rest of the moving parts as well.

At $650 for the saw, and the additional $$ to convert, it is still a good deal. I have a 1969 PM 66 that I did exactly this conversion to and I love the saw. While you are at it, get a nice rolling base as the saw is quite heavy.

-- Minnesota Woodworkers Guild, Past President, Lifetime member.

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#3 posted 01-19-2014 03:04 PM

If I lived in Peoria, you’d already be too late.

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#4 posted 01-19-2014 03:14 PM

A great price on the saw, too bad about the three phase. You could use a VFD to run the saw on single phase. Using VFD to mimic three phase derates the drive I believe by half, you will want to verify that. I run a milling machine this way, easier and cheaper than conversion to different motor in my case.

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#5 posted 01-19-2014 03:36 PM

I just checked the link and it looks like the seller has dropped the price to $600. He might go lower??

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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hydro

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#6 posted 01-19-2014 06:11 PM

Don’t wait….....

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#7 posted 01-19-2014 11:49 PM

It is a good deal. Go buy it!

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#8 posted 01-19-2014 11:58 PM

A pretty good deal…. probably the 3 phase is why it hasn’t
been snapped up already ‘cause people are intimidated
by phase conversion (it’s not that complicated really).

Now that’s a 5hp saw. It’s a 66 and the 66 takes a
standard mount motor I believe.

You can run a 5hp motor using a 5hp static converter
(about $100) and it will be about 3.3hp real power,
which is plenty.

You can build a 7.5 hp rotary converter for about $300
using a used motor and a pre-made Phase-craft panel
of ebay.

You can run a VFD, which is maybe $200, minimum. They
are neat but electronic and may not hold up over the years
if dust gets in (it will). VFDs do cool tricks like speed
variation but you don’t need any VFD tricks for a table
saw.

You can switch out the motor for a 3hp single phase
motor, about $350 new… $100 and up used. Like
I said earlier, the Powermatic takes a standard motor
mount so it’s not hard to switch it out.

If it were me, I’d go with the static converter.

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#9 posted 01-20-2014 01:31 AM

If you know of a motor repair place near you, you could see what they have for used single phase motors. You might score a 3hp single phase motor for a hundred bucks or something.

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#10 posted 01-20-2014 01:35 AM

Why the hell can’t these deals ever be near me, this thread wouldn’t have even been made if this were within 100-150 miles of me.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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#11 posted 01-20-2014 01:55 AM

Your a fool if you don’t jump that first thing in the AM.

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#12 posted 01-20-2014 03:23 AM

It is a terrible deal, I am going send some movers to the sellers residence to pick up the saw first thing in the morning in order to save u the pain and agony of having such a saw.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#13 posted 01-25-2014 01:15 AM

Okay, did you finally buy that saw or did you let the Wife talk you out of it?

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Harchamatic14

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#14 posted 01-25-2014 01:20 AM

Already sold 1 hour before I got there!!!!!! I think I had steam comin out of my ears. Just going to keep an eye out on CL and ebay and hope I get another chance of a lifetime to by a saw like that. I know who bought it too, and now he has it on ebay for $1300. What an a hole

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#15 posted 01-25-2014 01:23 AM

There are actually lots of good deals on cabinet saws such as pm66 and unisaws found on CL and at auctions on a very regular basis. I don’t see any deal as being once in a life time. But I will say the deal you posted was certainly better than the average deal.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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