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Brett

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225 days ago

I need to use a table saw to miter two opposite edges of board. In theory, I could tilt the blade to 45 degrees, move the fence the desired distance away from the blade, and run one edge of the board along the fence while cutting the miter on the opposite edge. The problem is that my fence can only move 24 inches from the saw but the two mitered edges need to be 26 inches apart. What alternatives do I have for cutting a miter?

I have thought about using the miter gauge to “push” the board through the saw blade, but even with an auxiliary fence, I think I will have a hard time ensuring that the edges of my board stay 90 degrees to each other. I supposed I could build a sled, but that’s a lot of work for one project. Any suggestions?

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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 225 days ago

You can use a locking miter bit at the router table.

In a pinch you could use a circular saw and edge guide, but I wouldn’t expect furniture grade accuracy.

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brtech

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#2 posted 225 days ago

Aux fence on a miter gauge should work fine. Mill a board flat and straight, fasten well to the miter gauge and cut.

The usual problem with this method is accurate marking of where the cut goes. Take your time, make sure you are measuring what you need to use (top/bottom of the miter, inside/outside tooth, ...) and maybe make a practice cut.

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JustJoe

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#3 posted 225 days ago

You could make a very large crosscut sled that rides in both miter gauge slots and sticks out each side of the tablesaw by a foot or more.

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#4 posted 225 days ago

You can use a clamp guide and a router with a chamfer bit…or a clamp guide with a circular saw, set at 45 degrees. Or forget the clamp guide, and just clamp a straight edge, and cut with router or saw.
You didn’t say how wide the board is…can you use a sliding compound miter saw?
Or, you could make a sled

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#5 posted 225 days ago

I would use the miter gauge with a beefy auxiliary fence. Say a 2×4 that’s been jointed and thickness so its square. You can then add a couple of clamps to hold your stock to the fence while you push it through. Don’t backup the cut piece while the blade is still rotating.

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WibblyPig

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#6 posted 225 days ago

Do you own a circular saw?

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Texcaster

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#7 posted 225 days ago

This works for me and many others. Screw a bit of timber to the rip fence. Rise the blade at 45* into the fence. You now have a sort of router table set up. Cut your mitre. Make a relief cut on the heel (freehand at the saw or freehand on the jointer ) or the waste will come out like an arrow.
If you don’t leave a small flat at the tip of the cut, the job will rock around because the edge isn’t straight front to back. ( it is offset ) Round this over after glue up, or double side tape a straight edge before the cut.

-- Bill....... I listen very closely to the timber and then impose my will.

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gfadvm

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#8 posted 225 days ago

I use a sacrificial fence attached to my miter gauge for these cuts. Clamp a stop block to the miter gauge fence to assure your pieces are all the same length.

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Brett

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#9 posted 224 days ago

Texcaster, what do you mean by “make a relief cut on the heel”? Can you explain a little more? Thanks.

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basswood

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#10 posted 224 days ago

This sounds like a good excuse to buy a sliding compound miter saw to me, unless the board you are mitering is wider than 13 inches?

You could do this on a table saw, of course, with a 26” long board anyway (by miter gauge and fence, or sled or sacrificial rip fence method)

If you ever have to miter a wide AND long board… then the sliding CMS is just the ticket.

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basswood

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#11 posted 224 days ago

btw, I built a long rectangular box that fits snuggly over my Biesemeyer Fence. It is a smooth fence on one side and the other side is the tight miter and bevel fence.

I can use this box with either side facing the blade. And use the fence on both sides of the blade too, depending on what needs to be done.

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Texcaster

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#12 posted 224 days ago

Without the relief the waste is triangle shaped and crowds the fence. This also makes the final cut more of a trim cut. The blade is only raised enough to bury the tip. This technique and many others was part of the curriculum at L.A. Trade Tech in the mid 70s. You can pattern cut odd shapes with an overhang jig ( http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/tablesaw/tablesaw-pattern-jig/ ) on the saw, triangles & parallelograms and and then mitre all the edges this way. We were taught it’s possible to do almost everything on the table saw if you have to. Didn’t someone sell his Unnecessary Table Saw awhile ago?

Still going strong! http://college.lattc.edu/cdm/program/cabinetmaking-mill-work/ I did the 2 year, 5 day a week program on the GI bill. Before that I mostly just went surfing. I was 27 and had surfed most of the w. coast of Mexico and El Salvador. Cabinet making became the new surfing for me. Krenov just published his first book and I was knocked out!

-- Bill....... I listen very closely to the timber and then impose my will.

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