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01-16-2014 01:49 AM

Topic tags/keywords: cnc 3d printers hand made planes lathes

Popular Science article on Carl Bass, “The Maker King” and CEO of Autodesk and a force behind the ”MAKER MOVEMENT”!

Shopbot is one of those that I know of is part of the MAKER MOVEMENT!

According to the article there are an estimated 100K designs and instructions on Instructables and also part of the MAKER MOVEMENT!

20,000 square feet all that technology makes me very envious … but then I don’t have a net worth of $280M!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#1 posted 01-16-2014 01:57 AM

He’s got a 20,000 square foot shop. I’ve got 624. Heck, the little shack I live in is only 970’.
And he’s got another one down the road just for metalworking.
I have workshop envy.

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#2 posted 01-16-2014 02:17 AM

Mixed feelings about Autodesk. I dearly love my AutoCAD 2007, but even an upgrade would cost in excess of $4,000. AutoCAD doesn’t seem to be interested in individual users. Their target is multiple “seats” by subscription to corporations where software cost, relative to salaries, is incidental. AutoCAD IS NOT the current standard for architecture and related engineering. It’s Revit. And that also happens to be owned by Autodesk.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#3 posted 01-16-2014 04:17 AM

I also love AutoCAD but cant afford to use it. Having spent so many years designing and engineering, not being able to use it any more is like having an arm cut off.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#4 posted 01-16-2014 04:19 AM

John, I believe that Revit was mentioned in that article but not much more than that.

I would like AutoCad but just like the majority of the professional CAD software; ie Creo, Solidworks, IronCAD, and so many other are w a y t o o expensive for the average hobbyist. Something in the less than $500 or FREE feature reduced version would be a target price in my opinion! Feature modules could be made available at incremental cost to suit the individual users.

People like Carl Bass have to understand that the average hobbyist/inventor needs a low cost CAD in order to make the MAKER MOVEMENT become even better for everyone.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#5 posted 01-16-2014 04:39 AM

madts & oldnovice: Two months ago I decided to pull the plug on AutoCAD (they’ll probably survive) and go with TurboCAD Pro 20. It has a retail price of $1,500, but they have a special incentive program for hard-core AutoCAD users like me and I purchased it for $500. Still a hefty chunk of change, but I use it to make my living. Because TurboCAD has always been a little guy compared to AutoCAD, they’re something like Avis—they try harder. All of my AutoCAD dwg files are perfectly compatible, as well as twenty other formats including SketchUp. There is a small learning curve, but you can configure the software so that it looks and feels like AutoCAD.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#6 posted 01-16-2014 04:55 AM

I have no frame of reference for TurboCAD as I am a Creo user (the free version) and, for some reason or other, most of the Creo users get inundated with ads from Solidworks. I have seen Solidworks and see it is very much like Creo.

I guess I will need to look at TurboCA while I am also in that process I will check out DesignSpark, free version, which is intended for electronics but has many tools for electronics cabinet design (most vintage electronic cabinets were made of wood and better looking than some of today’s junk)!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#7 posted 01-16-2014 11:27 AM

oldnovice: When I sing the praises of TurboCAD vs AutoCAD, I’m talking about its 3D capabilities for modeling, lighting and rendering. For 99% of woodworkers, 2D’s enough if they’re familiar with the basic principles of technical drawing. Autodesk did have a great $50 program called QuickCAD that appeared around 2001, and then suddenly disappeared after I wrote an article about it for Popular Woodworking in 2003. Looking back, I think someone at Autodesk realized they were giving away too many of the “secrets” of AutoCAD. If you’d like, I can send you a copy of the article. Maybe we can petition them to bring it back. :)

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#8 posted 01-16-2014 06:32 PM

John I have to disagree with your statement ”For 99% of wood workers, 2D is enough …” as I start in 3D to get the overall concept designed and use the tools available to check for clash/clearance, do exploded 3D views to get the assembly process checked out.
Since Creo, the free version does not support realistic rendering, and creating photo realistic views are process by itself I do what I can with with the tools it does supply:
  • custom color palette
  • lighting control
  • shadows
  • perspective, ground plane, etc.

After that I get 2D views it can create for me from the model add the dimensions of interest as that is what I use for fabrication of the various pieces.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#9 posted 01-17-2014 01:03 AM

Wouldn’t it be nice if someone like this would share his wealth

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#10 posted 01-17-2014 01:15 AM

My shop is 24ft x 24ft, no CAD , a legal pad and pencil with a few woodworking tools. I guess what I have that others don’t is desire and adaptability. I have read a few books but I would sooner think outside of the box. John

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#11 posted 01-17-2014 02:52 AM

I think Jacob Ward has a man crush,
I had to take a shower after reading the article.

All I read is Blah Blah Blah BS BS BS.

All Bass is trying to do is promote his product in the guise of a Blue Collar worker.

The Maker King, give me a break.
“Shaping the Maker Movement from his Garage” That’s not a Garage it’s 10 Houses.

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#12 posted 01-17-2014 03:07 AM

It ain’t no Garage, it’s a production facility. ;-)

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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