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PushyMonk

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01-15-2014 02:28 PM

Hello all,

Im a long time carpenter but have been slowly building a shop here at home.. I am finally upgrading to a hybrid / cabinet saw… i am looking at a used 1023 used at a home shop .. the owner wants 700? thoughts? im on the fence lol…. seriously ..it has a shop fox fence which i think came with this saw correct?

plus moving it out of his basement .. truck rental a strong friend.. running 220.. etc just want the peanut gallery to say what Im already thinking’\ glad to be here officially now with a user name and a post…
i feel good when i read the posts by most members here over the years

all the best


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#1 posted 01-15-2014 02:51 PM

715P? 1023?
I don’t know what you’re thinking so I can’t say it, but I’m thinking “If this guy is too tired to write the full model number, or company name, then I wonder if he’s even got enough energy to actually buy a tablesaw and put it to use.”

Or is that just the way the cool kids talk about tools now? If so, sorry. Let me start again:

Dude, forget the 715P man, and the 1023 is whack. I’ve got a 10XL and it rocks. And when you get the TS, don’t forget the J&P. I love my 735 but the 60 just shreds. Peace out man!

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#2 posted 01-15-2014 02:56 PM

I don’t know that I’d pay $700 for that saw unless it was in basically new condition or included some extras. They sell for what, $1250 new? With a new one you get a warranty, delivery to your house, newest riving knife design, etc.

Is it a recent model or an older one?

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PushyMonk

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#3 posted 01-15-2014 03:01 PM

for plain joes’’’ take some advice…dont think too hard you may hurt yourself… but Im thinking.. if this guy has enough energy to be a smart ass, I wonder if he has any energy left to be courteous.
grizzly 1023R or G0715P.

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#4 posted 01-15-2014 03:07 PM

I was being courteous. Rude would have been “what kind of dou&#bag just says 1023?”

And it made you write Grizzly. G0715P, so my work is done.

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#5 posted 01-15-2014 03:07 PM

thinking its about 6-7 years old.. probably not worth the hassle for the little extra power that motor brings… i haven’t cut 8/4 hard maple on my current saw for who knows how long…

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#6 posted 01-15-2014 03:09 PM

from what i see already jj you need alot more work.. were done..

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#7 posted 01-15-2014 03:25 PM

Your best advice will come from knotscott when he sees the post, but until then.

For most hobbyists, either saw will do the job, but, and it is a very important but, the 1023 is a LOT more saw. It’s not just the power, which you can’t discount—added power means the saw isn’t working as hard, so you are pushing as hard, which leads to safer conditions. In addition, the 1023 is just beefier construction all the way around, more mass, massive cabinet mounted trunnions, less vibration—all adds up to longer life and generally a more pleasant working experience.

What is that worth to you? I use an old Craftsman contractor saw and am OK with that. However, I do not currently have 220v in my shop. In the next few years, I plan to build a new shop with 220 power and will look for a good used cabinet saw along the lines of the 1023 at that time for all the reasons above.

That’s me, you must decide for you.

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#8 posted 01-15-2014 03:28 PM

If I were replacing my 20-year-old saw today, I would put safety at the top of the list. So for me, the lack of a riving knife on the used saw would kill the deal.

Mike

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#9 posted 01-15-2014 03:38 PM

Both are nice saws and both are going to cut wood for you. As Jay mentioned, the G1023RL is a significant step up in class. Not sure how big a deal it is for you to run 220v….that can add some cost, so figure that into your decision making….total cost could end up to be a wash. Electrical requirements aside, assuming the G1023RL is in good shape, the only thing you gain by going with the G0715P is a 1 year warranty, but you gain a lot under the hood with a G1023.

Make sure it’s a G1023”R” series and not an older G1023”S” series….those are really stout cabinet saws too, but were pre-riving knife, some models were right tilt, and depending on how old some had smaller wings also. In general, IMO a G1023S is worth a bit less than a G1023RL, RLW, etc. In good shape, a G1023S might fetch $500-$600 depending on extras….a G1023SL is left tilt, so maybe $650 if it’s excellent. The G1023RL is worth some extra over the “S” series IMO. If it is an older “S” series, and it still meets your needs, I’d offer less…..there is an aftermarket riving knife called the BORK that fits the G1023S/SL and works well. I’ve had one on my Shop Fox W1677 (same as a G1023SL) since 2008.

As always, it’s ultimately up to you, but if adding 220v isn’t a big deal to you, I doubt you’ll ever regret having a beefier saw. 50% more power is but one benefit (it’s more than a little) ....mass, the way the mechanisms operate, the fence, longevity, and peace of mind are also benefits. You’ll never be able to tell which saw cut a piece of wood by looking at it, but you would certainly notice which one you’re cutting with while you’re doing it….it’s pretty noticeable.

G1023S:

G1023SL:

G1023RL:

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#10 posted 01-15-2014 05:30 PM

I was being courteous. Rude would have been “what kind of dou&#bag just says 1023?”

And it made you write Grizzly. G0715P, so my work is done.

Joe – RIGHT ARM DUDE !!.....I mean, Right On :o) LMAO

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#11 posted 01-15-2014 05:50 PM

shy of this wash woman above… thank you for all the above assistance… all the reading in the world can not give you the feel of experience that I can see some saw owners have.. thanks again for those that had something good to say..

Thought this forum was filled with a better class of intellect .. I didnt realize that there were so many knuckle heads that make a big deal over nothing.. wish i had that kind of time to be that petty. try it right in front of me see how that works for you.. im in nassau long island for any dou#bags that want to discuss it up close and personal.. Forums are loaded with keyboard tough guys..

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#12 posted 01-15-2014 06:12 PM

Oh yea! Another hoteaded idiot to screw with! Welcome to the forum, might wanna block me now because I’ll be on every one of yours posts telling you how happy we are to see you.

Well douche-bag (Yea, I’ll spell it out for the mods to censor later) you’re the one who strolled on in and preceded to get your panties in a wad when someone pointed out how stupid it looks to say half a model # and expect everyone to know WTF you’re talking about. So if you wanna be a tough-guy and invite people down to say it to your face, well fine I’m up for it. But you’re the dickwad (yea, that might get censored too) who is going to have to do the traveling.

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#14 posted 01-15-2014 09:56 PM

What’s that? We’re supposed to just click some random link with no explanation and go off to some other website to see what you have to say now? Dang, I thought you were a bit lazy before but this is getting ridiculous. There must be something in the water off Long Island that makes them extra lethargic. What’s next – you’re just going to give us a few acronyms? “KMA, SMD FOAD!” How much longer until you’re just posting grunts or sighs or just empty white space? Should we take up a collection, maybe raise enough money to hire a stenographer for you so you can properly participate?

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#15 posted 01-15-2014 10:51 PM

Joe,have you run out of dog food again? Or even people food the dog will eat?

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