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Steve Kreins

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01-15-2014 01:34 PM

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Can someone explain the grading system for wood to me or direct me to a link that explains. I’m confused as usual.
This is an example from a local mill.

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4/4 Select & Better
4/4 # 1 Common
4/4 # 2 Common
6/4 Select & Better
8/4 Select & Better

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#1 posted 01-15-2014 01:56 PM

Here you go, first thing on Google.

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#2 posted 01-15-2014 02:05 PM

F & S. First and second, I think these are the best grades.

Five quarter, 5/4, usually means rough stock, not milled, and is around 1.25 thick.
And the purchaser gets to mill the lumber and is less expensive than s4s etc.

Select & Better etc, have knots, pith and are less expensive.

You can read up on it as well on WoodWeb:

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#3 posted 01-15-2014 07:05 PM

Thanks Guys, your the best! I really appreciate the help!

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#4 posted 01-15-2014 07:42 PM

One other thing to note, if the lumber is S4S and listed as 4/4 it’s actual dimension will most likely be closer to 3/4. 4/4 usually refers to the lumber size before surfacing. This isn’t always the case, but check with the mill to be sure.

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#5 posted 01-25-2014 03:24 PM

Thank you all for the lesson, I’m actually starting to understand and that scares me. ;)
I’m not as afraid to go down to the mill here in Waco and see what I can pick up. A little of this and a little of that. The mill here is huge, Dakota Hardwoods
I would rather go to my friend Danny’s, WDHLT15, mill in Georgia, HamsleyHardwoods but I can’t afford the gas or to have shipping costs, but maybe someday. I’ll let you know how it turns out or if I get thrown out for being a dummy.

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#6 posted 01-25-2014 04:15 PM

Dakota is the only really good Lumberyard in El Paso, Tx. The gents working there are very helpful, which is unusual for El Paso. If you go in to Dakota and ask them they should be helpful and show you around.. I learned the most by just asking the yard guys. It was easier to visualize.

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#7 posted 01-25-2014 07:46 PM

Steve, here’s a site that’s excellent for info I have it bookmarked and visit it at least once a day for reference data.I think you may find it useful. Years ago I ordered some walnut and was advised that what I wanted was FAS-S4S. It was nice but pricey for what I thought was some plain looking boards. I was a bit disappointed because I had a picture of spectacular figure in mind. A friend gave me a few shorts of No 1 common walnut. What a difference! It had wild grain, steaks of orange and purple here and there, a little sapwood (which I like for contrast) and so much more “character”. I was told those boards cost 1/2 the price of the FAS. Never looked at the high-priced spread after that…...............Wes

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