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01-14-2014 04:52 PM

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Hi Folks, I’m looking at buying a used craftsman saw off of Craigslist. I’ve texted the guy selling it, but outside of saying the top is free of rust, and it’s a 10” saw, I’ve got little info on it.

I’m hoping that one of you could give me a general idea as to year(s) of manufacture, rated Amps, or anything, really.

Thanks


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#1 posted 01-14-2014 05:03 PM

It’s got a universal motor, meaning it’ll be louder, have less torque, and isn’t one of the well regarded old Emerson saws that were so popular. I’d pass on this one unless it’s < $50. Similar saws with belt drive outboard induction motors are pretty common, often very inexpensive, and offer much more upside IMHO.

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#2 posted 01-14-2014 05:39 PM

I looks like he just changed the oil – so that’s good.

Andrew

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#3 posted 01-14-2014 06:00 PM

@knotscott: Ok, Thanks for the info. I know better than to get a universal motor driven TS, which is why I’m looking for a used one on Craigslist.

@schnable: Gotta change the oil regularly on those old saws :)

Ok then, how about this one? No clue on make, model, or anything other than it’s belt drive…

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#4 posted 01-14-2014 07:12 PM

It’s pretty old, but still has better potential than the one with the universal motor. Be sure it has a 27” deep table and accepts 10” blades.

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#5 posted 01-14-2014 10:34 PM

Check the blades as Knot advised. They made some of these with 8 or 8-1/2 inch blades. This saw doesn’t appear to have a fence. You might want to upgrade the fence anyway but you definitely need a fence. The first saw has an aluminum top I believe. that is a direct drive motor. Those are not too bad if you use them as a bench top or saw you might want to carry out on a job. They are not intended for fine furniture building but they have been used for that.

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#6 posted 01-14-2014 10:44 PM

Ok thanks. Would a quick way to check the max blade size be to measure the blade slot in table?

I could make do with a diy fence for a while if the saw is solid but doesn’t come with a fence. Since the price listed is $70, it may not. I’ll certainly ask.

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#7 posted 01-14-2014 11:23 PM

IMHO $70.00 without a fence is high.
I see these on CL going for around $50.00 with the fence.

Best bet is to get a model number, to verify max blade size.

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#8 posted 01-14-2014 11:27 PM

Ryan – If you were to post your general geographic location, someone here might have a lead on a hot deal….

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#9 posted 01-14-2014 11:34 PM

@Knotscott: Good Idea. I’m In Fort worth, Texas.

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#10 posted 01-14-2014 11:57 PM

Don’t be afraid to offer what you can afford on a saw that’s a little above your price range….the worse they can say is “no”. There are a couple on CL that might be worth looking at or making an offer on.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/4280395505.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tls/4282831947.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/tls/4253019207.html (worth an offer)
If you’re up to a project, and if it truly runs as they state, it could be worthwhile to clean this one up about the fence. This was one of many Taiwanese saws made by Mao Shan….similar if not identical to the older Grizzly G1022Z, Bridgewood, older Jet, early PM contractor saws, AFF, Omega, and many others.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/tls/4284671553.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/hvo/4227668533.html (ad says “make offer”)

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#11 posted 01-15-2014 01:03 AM

One thing to keep in mind. Those 113 series Craftsman saws typically come with REALLY shitty fences. I should know, I bought one for $80ish dollars and quickly found the machine nearly unusable without a fence upgrade. Good news is that a $160 Delta T2 fence upgrade made the saw perform like a champ.
You can occasionally find these saws with Beisemeyer fences or other upgrades for good prices though.

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#12 posted 01-15-2014 05:34 AM

@Tedstor: Yeah, I know those fences, they’re bad. The rest of the machine is good though, I could make do until buying or building better.

@knotscott: That Ohio forge looks like a good deal. I’m shooting for spending $150 max (Christmas money burning a hole :) I like that Ridgid, but I doubt that those guys selling it would take 50% off asking price. But like you said, worth an offer.

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#13 posted 01-15-2014 09:28 PM

Looks like I’m going to get this one
http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/4280395505.html

Anything in particular to look at before I buy it?

Also, I’m going to be transporting this in a Honda Pilot, so I’m probably going to have to take it off the stand and possibly remove the wings. How difficult is it to do that?

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#14 posted 01-15-2014 10:07 PM

The fence is the achilles heal, as you know, but it’s complete, priced right, looks to be in decent shape, and has good potential. See how it runs and make sure nothing major is broken. Things that stick a little, or minor vibration can be pretty easily remedied. With the saw unplugged, spin the blade or belt by hand so you can listen if the bearings grind…not all that hard to replace if necessary, but it’s always nice to not have to. Get it aligned, and put a decent blade on it.

A ratchet set or ratcheting wrenches will make short work of the motor, wings, and fence.

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#15 posted 01-17-2014 10:10 PM

Hey all, thanks for the good advice.

I ended up getting a 1HP Craftsman 113-298240. For $150 I got the saw unit with the splitter/guard, rip fence, a miter gauge with built in clamp, and a herc-u-lift mobile base. Oh, and all the manuals, which was good, because they detail all the setup and parts. It looks like the motor pulley is out of alignment with the arbor pulley, and I’ll probably need a new blade in it, but other than that it runs good. Oh, and I cracked the switch off from where it mounted to the saw, oops. Nothing epoxy can’t fix.

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