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Forum topic by Brad posted 01-11-2014 at 09:50 AM 671 views 2 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-11-2014 at 09:50 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planing stop

I have a question for you veteran woodworkers who work stock exclusively with hand planes.

I have plane stops that work beautifully to hold stock when I’m planing longitudinally with the grain. However, when I’m dimensioning stock, and planing across the grain, I have yet to find an effective means to secure the wood. So pieces slip and slide and frustrate the heck out of me.

How do you secure your stock for these planing operations?

—Do I need to install a tail vice?

—Alternatively, would the placement of a three-foot planing stop (using dog holes) parallel to the length of my bench work?

Regards,

Brad, Broomfield, CO

-- "People's lives are their own rewards or punishments."


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#1 posted 01-11-2014 at 09:54 AM

I use holdfasts whenever I can because they hold stock really well. Of course you have to reposition them when you get to planing the part of the board that the holdfast is touching. I also use bench dogs in holes down the center of the bench. One dog to hold the end, a second one or two on the side of the board to resist the strokes toward the center of the bench.

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#2 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:16 AM

I have a wagon vise but wooden dogs still slip for me when working accross the grain, the veritas brass dogs grip like a boss, I highly recommend them.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#3 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:19 AM

I clamp battens that are lower than the stock I’m planning along the back and sides. This has worked well for me. With the new bench I’ll be doing what Stumpy said.

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#4 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:24 AM

Actually I haven’t been going across the grain much lately unless I’m cutting a dado, I’ve been flattening logitudinally unless it is a very rough sawn board.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#5 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:29 AM

You don’t have a tail vise? – I could not imagine my bench without it, I use both all the time, and often at the same time.

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#6 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:35 AM

You might like this Brad. Goes over tail vices and a traditional option.

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#7 posted 01-11-2014 at 10:59 AM

Have you seen mcguire’s solution? He uses a stop and notched board to hold the back of the board at the corner, a hold fast holds the board.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#8 posted 01-11-2014 at 11:05 AM

http://www.theenglishwoodworker.com/?p=1434

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#9 posted 01-11-2014 at 11:43 AM

Mauricio beat me to it.

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#10 posted 01-11-2014 at 12:08 PM

OK Maur and Andy, that is the best solution. Proof of the KISS principle.

:0)

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#11 posted 01-11-2014 at 12:16 PM

Awesome video, Mauricio. That notched batten and holdfast is seriously cool.

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#12 posted 01-11-2014 at 12:21 PM

hhmmmhhmmm. Sorry, just clearing my throat.

Kidding, kidding, no tomatoes.

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#13 posted 01-11-2014 at 04:43 PM

Hi Brad, I have two wagon vices to hold larger pieces. They are cheap and can be retrofitted.
Check out the second video in this blog.

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#14 posted 01-11-2014 at 08:22 PM

I’ve never heard of the batten technique. I’m definitely going to try that. Thanks guys!

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#15 posted 01-11-2014 at 09:52 PM

I use batten and hold fast, works fine for me.

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