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01-06-2014 11:54 PM

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Other a substantial difference in price, is there any real difference between Transtint Liquid Wood Dyes and Rit Liquid Fabric Dyes?

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"


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#1 posted 01-07-2014 12:11 AM

I just started using wood dyes this seems like an interesting option

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#2 posted 01-07-2014 12:28 AM

I’ve read about some people using Rit black for ebonizing wood. Haven’t tried it myself, but the cost savings over Transtint might be worth some experimenting. And think of the colors you’ld have to choose from!

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#3 posted 01-07-2014 12:45 AM

I’ve played a little with rit and – for me anyway – it acts a little like a pigment stain, getting into the pores but not really penetrating well into the grain if that makes any sense. This was on figured maple and I was looking for something to pop the figure. Rit doesn’t do it anywhere near as well as transtint or the mosers powered water based dye I’ve tried. I also found it hard to get an even look with rit. It comes out a bit streaky but for ebonizing you could do several coats and it would probably look good. The liquid version seems a little better than the powder.

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#4 posted 01-07-2014 12:56 AM

Rit fabric dyes are not color fast long term when used on wood.

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#5 posted 01-07-2014 01:25 AM

A pity, that. It would have been nice to just be able to go to the grocery store, or wherever they sell fabric dyes, and pick up some neat colors for almost nothing.

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#6 posted 01-07-2014 01:32 AM

Jim, when you say they “are not color fast long term”, do you mean they fade even when top coated?

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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#7 posted 01-07-2014 02:07 AM

I asked the question because I wondered if others have tried it.
I’ve found that Rit dyes ARE colorfast when encapsulated with a clear spray topcoat. I’ve used Krylon Satin Finish 1323.
Rit has an extensive section on their website devoted to dyeing wood.
http://www.ritdye.com/dyeing-techniques/wood-wicker
I needed a bright orange for one of my frog boxes, and it worked like a champ!

Where have you used it, Jim?

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#8 posted 01-07-2014 02:14 AM

Hey, John, thanks for the link. I’ve bookmarked it for future reference. Going to have to give that a try. Now if I could just get some of the colors from Dr. Martins dyes, that would be trippy.

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#9 posted 01-07-2014 02:14 AM

I have never even heard of this stuff…

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#10 posted 01-07-2014 02:17 AM

Rit fabric dye has been around for a long, long time. I remember my mother using it when I was just a wee lad…and that was a very, very long time ago.

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#11 posted 01-07-2014 02:29 AM

You might want to take a look at Keda Dyes ( http://kedadyeinc.com/ ). Their dyes are designed to dye wood and mix with either water or alcohol.

They sell a kit that yields five quarts of wood stain dye for less than $12 (that includes S&H).

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#12 posted 01-07-2014 02:56 AM

Transtint dyes are dissolved in a universal solvent (ethylene glycol I think) which makes them convenient to add to a variety of mediums. I don’t know how effectively Rit dyes will go into lacquer, shellac or alcohol but if making toners is your thing, this could be an important consideration.

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#13 posted 01-07-2014 03:38 AM

If all else fails.

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#14 posted 01-07-2014 03:38 AM

Lumberjocker Paul Miller is a very talented man who is exceedingly generous in sharing his knowledge. He has shared much information about coloring and ebonizing wood:

http://lumberjocks.com/shipwright/blog/19521
http://prmdesigns.com/page29.html

And, here us some tried and true information on a traditional old school ebonizing method:

http://lumberjocks.com/Allison/blog/5831

I often think Lumberjocks needs a “topics” index as a place to aggregate information. It sure would save a lot of search time – and you wouldn’t need to count on memory alone!

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#15 posted 01-07-2014 06:11 AM

All I can report is what worked for me on another of my rotary-head frog boxes.

Rit Scarlet Liquid Fabric Dye on the tongue and India ink on the ebonized eyes.

Krylon Satin Finish 1323 over the dye and ink, and Minwax Clear Satin Polyurethane on the naturally-finished wood.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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