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12-21-2008 04:29 AM

I started to apply finish to the cherry entertainment cabinet I posted in projects. The customer was very fussy about the color. None of the stains I tried were right, the only thing that came close was a colored poly product that I have never liked. It ended up being the perfect color and what they wanted. I should have tried other colors of stain till I got it right for them. The colored poly made a total disaster of the project. I applied just as the directions stated, careful not to put to much on but every time I turned around there was a run, particularly on the vertical surfaces. I ended up chasing runs and when I was all done it looked hideous. I wont even post a picture I am so ashamed of it. Where there weren’t runs it was splotchy. It almost went to the burn pile last night

I tried sanding out the runs and the blotchy spots this morning and tried to blend the light spots in with another coat to no avail. I have some stripper on a test piece right now to see if it will do a good enough job of removing the finish so I can start over again. I was almost inconsolable last night. You could have bought every tool in the shop cheap last night. I needed to vent, thanks folks, for listening.

Mart


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#1 posted 12-21-2008 04:37 AM

Good news. I tested the stripper and it took all three coats off the test piece. I only have one coat on the project with two coats in spots to try to blend the color. I could have got by without this set back but at least I can get back to square one. Now to find the right stain.

Mart

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#2 posted 12-21-2008 05:54 AM

Good recovery. At least part way. make sure we are notified of the product that didn’t work as stated and what you do to recover.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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#3 posted 12-21-2008 06:29 AM

The stripper is working but it is leaving a slight lavender cast to the cherry. I don’t think I can sand it out without going through the veneer. Now I will probably have to finish the drawers and doors and then strip them to get to the same color so I can go from there. What a mess.

Mart

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#4 posted 12-21-2008 06:37 AM

Is it the stripper that is causing the tint. You might try another one.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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#5 posted 12-21-2008 08:00 AM

Karson,

The color on the Polyshade is Bombay Mahagony and is the cause of the tint. It has a really deep red hue. I had used a lighter Polyshade on a past project and while I didn’t care for it I didn’t have the headaches this has given me.

Mart

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#6 posted 12-21-2008 04:43 PM

I actually used that exact product/color on a project, and I know what you mean about the runs. It came out looking okay in the end, but I had to apply about four coats. No more polyshades for me!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#7 posted 12-21-2008 05:09 PM

I appreciate the product warning. Not that I’d stain cherry anyway – I really like the color on a nicely-figured piece of wood. But I battle runs with wipe-on polyurethane, I’d hate to have to worry about runs where I can’t just rub it off with steel wool.

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#8 posted 12-21-2008 06:19 PM

Actually I am doing this as more of a small sideline to my regular job but still want to provide the customer the best possible product. I personally wouldn’t have stained the cherry and would have gone with a natural finish, but the customer wants a dark finish. As far as access to pro finishes I guess I will have do some searching, I don’t know of any dealers in Alaska for any of the brands mentioned.

Mart

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#9 posted 12-21-2008 06:54 PM

try a gel stain. go with a coat of shellac about a 1 lb cut to seal off the surface. the scuff sand it with 600 grit and apply the gel stain. i would recommend a good brand like bartley or general finishes. you can get gf at rockler and woodcraft but bartley has to be ordered from their website. you shouldn’t get any blotching this way.

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#10 posted 12-21-2008 07:06 PM

I think your first mistake was trying to sand the runs out. I allways take a razor blade to a run and slice it off before sanding. The other thing is matching stain for a customer, no thanks. I know what you mean by the veneeer, nowdays alot of ply is imported and has paper thin veneer, interior doors in new homes can be a nightmare.

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