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johnhutchinson

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01-03-2014 11:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: woodworking plans question

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One of the things that always disappoints me is that the major tool catalogs have little more than crappy plans for yard-art wishing wells on the last few pages. They leave me with a all-dressed-up-but-nowhere-to-go feeling. And I don’t need another %#+!* Adirondack chair. :(

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"


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#1 posted 01-03-2014 11:08 PM

Even worse is things like “Teds woodworking” which is a total rip off. I don’t mind paying for decent plans. But I either can’t find designs I like, or when I do get some they are terrible plans.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#2 posted 01-03-2014 11:09 PM

Chairs. Regular chairs. Not a windsor, not a shaker, not a rocker and – like you said – not another Adirondack, just a regular chair.

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#3 posted 01-03-2014 11:21 PM

Space shuttle.

-- End grain is like a belly button. Yes, I know you have one. No, I don't want to see it.

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#4 posted 01-03-2014 11:22 PM

just got clued in to ana-white.com pretty Alaska mom who is pretty darn handy with practical woodworking. no fine furniture but impressive all the same…

-- JC Garcia, Concord, CA : "It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission..."

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#5 posted 01-03-2014 11:23 PM

Subscribing to a woodworking publication that has page after page of detailed project plans that I have absolutely no interest in building. there is no such publication that can satisfy everyone’s likes.

-- Each step of every Wood Art project I design and build is considered my masterpiece… because I want the finished product to reflect the quality and creativeness of my work

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#6 posted 01-03-2014 11:30 PM

I’m with Joe, just basic chair plans would be nice.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and the wall gets in the way.. - Mike -

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#7 posted 01-03-2014 11:30 PM

We all have plans for whatever we want to build. Just make it so.
If you need inspiration just search Trindle Sketchup for free downloadable models.
Here is one from Sketchup… a Stickley #369 Morris

http://www.finewoodworking.com/ is another great resource for plans to purchase

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#8 posted 01-03-2014 11:31 PM

I would love to learn how to make Japanese puzzle boxes like this: http://www.puzzleboxworld.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_14_10.jpg

They seem to be closely held secrets, though. I have one and it is amazing.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#9 posted 01-03-2014 11:52 PM

Allen that is an impressive box.
John with you great imagination and skill I know you could build what ever you want without a plan,but it’s easier if you have a plan in hand.
In the adult woodworking classes I teach I have found that many plans are terribly inaccurate or the person who makes them may have an idea about design but nothing about joinery or wood movement. A case in point is someone brought up ana-white.com ,on this web site Ana has some rather charming designs but when it comes to joinery and considering wood movement she needs to expand her base of knowledge .As an example Ana has plans for a table but has the top glued and screwed to the aprons,a disaster waiting to happen.
Back to you question,The most accurate plans I’ve seen are from Woodsmith they test their plans before they put them out there,plus there free on line.

http://www.woodsmithshop.com/episodes/downloads/

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#10 posted 01-04-2014 12:43 AM

Jim—Thanks for the vote of confidence, and I’m with you regarding Woodsmith. ALL of their projects seem to be extremely well-thought-out. I watch their PBS program, and although it seems a little robotic at times, I always walk away with some good tips and techniques.

I find it interesting that a number of LJ’s are looking for good chair designs—nothing outrageous, just good.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#11 posted 01-04-2014 12:57 AM

I don’t know what you’re talking about… I do projects from plans all the time and they are TERRIFIC!

(Of course I have to draw the plans before I start, but, they ARE terrific!)

Some sort of CAD program is a MUST if you’re gonna do any kind of serious woodworking.

Nearly all commercial plans seem to have some bug-a-boo or another in them and you end up doing almost as much work on the plans as it would be to make them yourself.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#12 posted 01-04-2014 01:49 AM

A Doug said, a CAD progam is what I use to make my plans.

I use Creo Elements Direct, the free version, from PTC and have for over 10 years; it is a 3D solid modeling program with a 2D application built in.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#13 posted 01-04-2014 02:13 AM

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#14 posted 01-04-2014 02:15 AM

I think we’re drifting here. I was just asking what kinds of plans people are looking for.
But about that CAD thing …
I use CAD all the time because as a corporate architect I have to. But it’s really nothing more than a set of drafting tools and a very sharp pencil. When people asked me where’s the best place to start with CAD, I always tell them to get an old copy of Henry Cecil Spencer’s Basic Technical Drawing. CAD’s a dangerous tool if you’re not familiar with the basics of drafting and freehand drawing.
Used editions are always available through Amazon Books. Look for something from the 50’s or 60’s. They go back to the 30’s and it’s the only book that I actually collect.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#15 posted 01-04-2014 04:05 AM

I start with a model, let the program do the 2D part and/or assembly drawings, have it add all the dimensions, or I can insert the ones I want/need.

I had drafting both in high school and many semesters college as at one time I was going to be an architect or automobile designer but my interest in electronics won out!

The CAD tools available today have so much to offer like clash and clearance analysis, automated exploded views on paper and also of the model, weight/density caculations, perimeter/voume calculation, transparency, and so much more!

Very rarely do I build anything from a purchased or magazine plan!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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