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AngieO

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12-31-2013 08:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: finish question painted

Ok… So I really hate to paint wood. And I hate it even more now that several of my Christmas orders were asked to be painted. But… You do what they want.

So I have this small table I made. It’s done except that I need to attach the top to the base. I haven’t done this due yo the fact that I’m not sure what to do about the top. Here is a pic

This red top is painted gloss red. It took forever to cure! But now… I’m concerned that the first time they throw their keys down on the table that it will scratch up the top. So what should I do to the top? Would lacquer work? And what about the gloss?

What I have on hand is the following….
- Deft Spray Lacquer
- Arm R Seal poly (both in satin and gloss)
- polyacrylic
- minwax poly.

Only thing local is a Lowes.

Dud I mention I hated painting this???


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 12-31-2013 08:53 PM

Nice looking table. I think the Deft spray lacquer would be the easiest to apply and give you some protection without a lot of bother.

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#2 posted 12-31-2013 08:56 PM

Although I agree that more coats are more protection, and agree with Bondo, a good gloss paint should be durable enough to withstand normal use. What makes you think its that susceptible to scratching?

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Scott

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#3 posted 12-31-2013 08:57 PM

I would say the same thing. I just did a small project that had red spray paint for the lettering and then I sprayed Deft Gloss Laq and it came out great.

Good luck. It looks nice so far!

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Earlextech

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#4 posted 12-31-2013 09:00 PM

If it’s latex it needs poly on top. If it’s oil based, you’re fine as is.

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Roger

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#5 posted 12-31-2013 09:03 PM

Even painted, this came out really nice Angie. I’m no expert, and I’m still learning myself, but, I think the Arm R Seal would do well. 3 or more coats. I’d try it on a scrap piece that is painted with the same paint if possible to test it out. A friend of mine gets glass cut to fit the tops of most of his tables. I don’t like it personally, but, he says he does it so his cats don’t scratch em up. Good luck with your decision.

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AngieO

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#6 posted 12-31-2013 09:40 PM

Well… I had a test board. It’s all shiny and I EVER SO LIGHTLY scratched it with my fingernail. It easily scratched. And that was painted on Friday. So it had plenty of time to set.

The paint used was a spray paint. They bought it. It’s paint and primer in one. I think Krylon.

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#7 posted 12-31-2013 10:02 PM

Any good quality lacquer will do the job, use thin coats

-- Norman

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#8 posted 12-31-2013 10:05 PM

If it is latex paint it may dry quickly but it will actually take a couple months to completely cure while chemical bonds are forming.

Oil Based Long time to dry, fairly short cure time
Latex short time to dry, long time to cure.

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#9 posted 12-31-2013 11:33 PM

I think the lacquer would work perfect but test it first to make sure that it doesn’t cause it to lift(wrinkle). The table turned out really nice! Good luck!

-- Gary,Nebraska

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GaryL

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#10 posted 12-31-2013 11:44 PM

I know you don’t want to drag this out longer but you’ll need to test any top coat over your Krylon on a piece of scrap. The last thing you want is a reaction of, say lacquer over oil enamel, and have the whole thing ripple up like paint stripper.
Spray a piece with the same krylon and force dry if needed. I.e. heatgun or hairdryer. Test to see if it is as dry as your table top, then spray your clearcoat on that to be sure they are compatable.
Krylon makes a few different products, but a basic spray enamel usually takes several days to cure to its final hardness.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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AngieO

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#11 posted 01-01-2014 03:36 PM

Yeah… You’re right… I don’t want to drag this out… But I DO want to get it right. So I am going to test the lacquer on the test piece I already have. Hate waiting… But it’s worth it.

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Vincent Nocito

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#12 posted 01-01-2014 03:51 PM

I did water based poly over a Windsor green table base once and it worked out fine. The paint was an enamel paint. You need to let the paint fully cure before applying the finish.

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CharlesNeil

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#13 posted 01-01-2014 03:54 PM

Earlex has it right ..If this is an oil base enamel and it sounds like it may be ..then lacquer will lift it and you will be starting over. If it says to use mineral spirtits as clean up its oil base . As Earlex pointed out, if its an oil base , leave it as is , if its water base, you could use any of the items you have ..DEft is pretty soft for a top , I would go with the Polyacrylic ..

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#14 posted 01-01-2014 04:01 PM

Hey Angie…
When to comes to finishing… listen to Charles! :-)

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#15 posted 01-01-2014 04:02 PM

I know a lot of people don’t like the Polycrylic, but I used it over some water based paint because the paint had no sheen and felt soft. I think it worked out good. Plus I think you could go right over what you have with no ill effects.
(I sprayed it from a cup gun)

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