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BDFan1981

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12-29-2013 07:47 AM

Topic tags/keywords: black and decker hometime vintage 1980s 1970s rare

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?207063-Tools-you-bought-because-you-saw-Norm-Abram-use-them

The above link inspired me to create this thread. Mine is about which power tools you had bought because you saw one or more of these being used by Hometime’s Dean Johnson (1986-present) and JoAnne Liebeler (1987-91)?

Here’s some of the tools I saw the duo used in the 1987-91 period:
  • Black & Decker Professional 1179 3/8” Variable Speed Reversing Drill (Type 100)
  • Black & Decker Professional 1311 1/2” Variable Speed Reversing Drill (Type 100)
  • Black & Decker Professional 1345-09 1/2” Right Angle Drill Kit for Electricians (Type 2)
  • Black & Decker Professional 1348-09 1/2” Right Angle Drill Kit for Plumbers (Type 2)
  • Black & Decker Professional 1349-09 1/2” “Timberwolf” Joist & Stud Drill Kit (Type 1)
  • Black & Decker Professional 1982K “Scrudrill” Cordless Drill/Screwdriver Kit
  • Black & Decker Professional 3103 2-Speed Cut-Saw Kit (Type 100)
  • Black & Decker Professional 3157 Variable Speed Orbital Action Jig Saw (Type 100)
  • Black & Decker 7451 3” x 24” Belt Sander
  • Black & Decker 7615 Plunge Cut Router

~Ben


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 12-29-2013 08:51 AM

Well geeee. I don’t own a single Black and Decker tool.

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lepelerin

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#2 posted 12-29-2013 05:49 PM

More and more I try to stay away from electrical tools. I do not buy if I do not really absolutely need it. If I only need it once, either I will try to find an alternative or in the worst case scenario, rent one (never happened yet)

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#3 posted 12-29-2013 07:39 PM

Bd fan, you are one weird dude. Also your posts don’t have anything to do with woodworking.

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#4 posted 12-29-2013 07:39 PM

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#5 posted 12-29-2013 07:56 PM

His tools were bought because of a woodworking show to be used by him in working with wood, how can that
not have anything to do with woodworking. The tools pictured are from an era when B & D made good
tools that you could rely on, unlike today. You can call me older than dirt, but I like seeing these old wood
working power tools as much as some of you like looking at the hand tool porn here. Thank you for sharing
BDfan 1981.

-- As ever, Gus-the 77 yr young apprentice carpenter

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Chris208

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#6 posted 12-29-2013 08:02 PM

It was not a woodworking show, it was a construction show. And I strongly doubt BDfan is a woodworker.

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#7 posted 12-29-2013 08:10 PM

I still have a B&D router from 1983 that’s still going strong. As Bluepine38 said, B&D used to make good, reliable products. I don’t think much of their newer offerings and wouldn’t waste my money on them. It’s sad to see a once great manufacturer turn into, well, Black & Decker. What happened? Don’t know, but it really is too bad.

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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#8 posted 12-29-2013 08:13 PM

Chris104, you are one weird dude.

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#9 posted 12-29-2013 08:22 PM

BDFan, not to jump on your bandwagon but how many people have purchased tools after watching a video on Youtube?
Hinge, I agree. 104 is weird…

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#10 posted 12-29-2013 08:44 PM

Hey, cool, I have the B&D 7816 plunge router, and I really like it!! I bought it circa 1987, and I especially like the little pilot light feature. I’ve even machined 1/2” thick aluminum with it, using a solid carbide bit and external speed control!!
Bit changes and adjustments are not the easiest, but this has been one heck of a router all these years.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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dawsonbob

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#11 posted 12-29-2013 08:52 PM

Mine is a 7615-1 plunge router that I got for $20 from Craig’s List. Yep, the light still works on mine, too. It was my first router and it’s been very good for simple things, though I’ll be replacing it with a Bosch 1617 EVSPK next month. Still, it’s not bad for a 30 year old $20 router. Wish B&D still made things that reliable now.

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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#12 posted 12-29-2013 09:32 PM

For all the confused here: Those pictures I posted… I don’t have any of those tools in question, but are from eBay auctions present and past. I wish I did, and if I did, I would gladly take pictures of them and post them here. BTW, were any of those tools I mention actually that reliable back in the ‘80s?

dawsonbob: Bob, why do you intend to replace your 7615 with the Bosch?

~Ben

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#13 posted 12-29-2013 09:43 PM

BDFan. The old B&D is 1 1/2 hp, 1/4 inch shank, single speed at 25,000 rpm’s. I’ll keep it for things like trim routing, but it’s simply not in the same universe as the Bosch for anything else. Can you imagine putting a big panel raising bit in the B&D with a 1/4 inch shank at 25,000 rpms? Instant grenade with lethal shrapnel flying everywhere. No thanks! Look up the specs on the Bosch and you’ll understand. The B&D was fine back in 1983, but it simply can’t do the jobs of a modern router.

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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#14 posted 12-29-2013 09:56 PM

B&D, and a few others, are banned from my shop.
Once great, now garbage.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#15 posted 12-30-2013 08:37 PM

dawson: Oddly enough, I also subsequently bought two Bosch routers, mostly for the 1/2” collet capacity. They’re both about 20 years old, now as well. The old B&D still comes out to play once in a while. I’d hardly ever consider a new B&D anything now.

BDFan: I’m glad somebody is doing something to keep the memory of vintage B&D tools alive. It really is a shame that they’ve lost their reputation these days.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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