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Medickep

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237 days ago

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Well my dust collection system using a shop vac and PVC is just about done minus a few more hoses and a dust deputy. I’m very excited to get it and even bought a washable clean stream HEPA filter.

I’m trying to decide what the best setup will be for the DD. My initial thought was to shell out the 89 dollars for the delux version as it comes with everything, but since my shop vac will be stationary, I’m not sure I need the casters (at least not ones without brakes) or the hardware to mount it to my shopvac.

I’ve watched some youtube videos on guys who complain about a weak spot where the cyclone bolts to the lid so they have to reinforce it, which than leads to needing new hardware too.

I’m curious to hear peoples experiences with it as I can use the money on other stuff if the delux is a waste of money. I don’t have room for a huge container like a trash can, but I thought the 5 gallon bucket may fill up to fast, just not sure on a good alternative!

Has anyone ever lined the buckets with garvage bags to improve clean up of the DD? Or does that take away from the seal?

Also, why I have people’s attention, what is a good affordable hose for a palm sander? Most of the shop vac hoses are very stiff.

-- Keith


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Craftsman70

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#1 posted 237 days ago

I bought cheapest version of the DD and found the best bucket to mount it to is pool chlorine bucket. I don’t have a pool but someone I know does. Their chlorine buckets have a very nice screw on lid. I did reinfoce my lid, just to be safe. My only complaint is that the bucket tips over easily. My solution is to put some cement at the bottom. Even with that I sometimes have to bungy cord it to my workbench.

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Medickep

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#2 posted 237 days ago

If I go with a drum for collection, plastic or metal? I did find some on CL used for collecting rain water. But they had two openings on them that were sealed.

-- Keith

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Medickep

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#3 posted 237 days ago

There seems to be a lot on CL in my area. I might focus on a 25 gallon size, especially if lining it with a bag doesn’t work. I can’t imagine how fun it would be go dump 50 gallons worth of saw dust into a garbage can!!

Dies the size of the container affect its performance?

-- Keith

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RHaynes

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#4 posted 236 days ago

Yes, the way the cone bolts to the lid is a weak spot in the design. The hose connection stresses the connection between the cone and the lid. I fixed the problem on my setup with a piece of 13 mm MDF and some 1/4” bolts. It’s a 100% easy and effective fix.

-- "Sometimes the creative process requires foul language." -- Charles Neil.

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MJCD

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#5 posted 236 days ago

I’ve used my almost daily for a two years, and have stretched and strained the DD/5-gal bucket ‘system’ to where I’ve pulled-over the unit many times. The advice already provided is solid – weight the dust bin; bin size doesn’t matter; though, ensure the top and bottom connections are air-tight; the top connection between the vac and the DD should be supported (something which takes the sideways stress off of the top outlet) – I’ve used simple twine hooked over a horizontal rack, looped under the top connection. With these precautions, the DD will serve you well.
MJCD

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socrbent

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#6 posted 236 days ago

Even though you plan to have your vac/DD stationary, mounting them together and creating a support from vac to top of the DD has worked well for me. The support board is attached at either end by heavy cord so I can easily detach DD when dumping bucket or retrieving an item accidentally sucked up. An elastic strap would likely also work.

The 5 gallon bucket sets in side another bucket that is bolted to the base. When dumping all I need to do is lift the top bucket out and dump. The size of the bucket that you use IMHO depends on the volume of material you are running through the system. As I also have a larger dust collector used with my TS, planer, router and joiner. The vac/DD is used to clean up bench, lathe, disk and belt sanders, mortiser, and drill press. So the 5 gallon bucket only needs dumped infrequently.

If you want to line the bucket with a bag you may want to create a framework of wire or wood to set inside the liner to keep it from collapsing. My Laguna dust collector has such a device that is easy to remove from inside of the liner when it becomes full.

I do love my DD which I got as a Christmas present last year. Very little material passed to the vac and the filter has not needed to be cleaned or replaced all year.

-- socrbent Ohio

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Medickep

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#7 posted 236 days ago

Thanks for all the replies. I’m sure the delux setup is the best bang for the buck , I just didn’t want to buy it and find I went with something else!! As a new woodworker I’ve got plenty of gadjets I need to get! (i.e clamps!!)

Thanks for the replies on bin size. I was also planning on making the hose lengths as short as possible to improve performance???

When it’s all setup, I plan on putting a y in place, and borrowing a neighbors shop vac and testing the system with dusling shop vacs!

In a world where Google will teach you how to make a bomb out if sand, I could find no data on this!

-- Keith

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MJCD

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#8 posted 236 days ago

There are innumerable marketing efforts on every great and quack tool available.

Do your research; ask hard questions; evaluate function over hype and shine. There are individuals who can cut a straight line with a circular saw, flatten a board with a hand plane – you don’t need all of the bells & whistles, don’t need the most powerful, nor the most expensive. Buy good tools, and take care of them – quality is expensive ONCE. However, it’s easy to over-buy – Festool products are highly-engineered; however, Bosch, Milwaukee, sometimes Ridgid and Makita will provide years of excellent service.

The one area – again, my advice – to not underestimate is your layout and measuring tools: spend the money on Starrett, Mitutoyo, Incra, & Woodpeckers. Buy one tape measure (if you use two, they’ll be different – much like having two watches, and you never know what time it is).
MJCD

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Medickep

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#9 posted 236 days ago

MJCD-

Thanks for your thoughts, I really appreciate them! I realized early on that wood working appears to be like golf ; no shortage of gadgets!

Most of the ones I want I believe are useful though. Clamps, an really nice carpenter square, more clamps and a dust deputy!!

-- Keith

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Medickep

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#10 posted 235 days ago

Speaking of other gadjets, us the wood river a decant square? Looking to upgrade my box box one, which was a gift since it tends to move no matter how tight I make it.

-- Keith

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MJCD

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#11 posted 235 days ago

Incra, Woodpeckers, and Starrett make excellent squares: my preference is the Incra, though the Woodpeckers is just as fine – they will hold square for the rest of your life.

MJCD

-- Lead By Example; Make a Difference

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Medickep

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#12 posted 232 days ago

So I got my Dust Deputy setup with a 25 gallon trash can and it collapsed on me!! I sealed it with rubber strips for windows, cut out a rubber seal between the DD and the lid and also reinforced the trash can lid with a piece of wood.

The DD rolled off my bench one time and I noticed the top had a large crack in it!! I couldn’t believe it cracked that easy, the day I bought it!!

-- Keith

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Patrick's work shop

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#13 posted 223 days ago

hi medickep I was thinking of getting a dust deputy, since you have one do you have any negatives I should know about before I pull the trigger on the purchase of one . Any tips or thought you may have would be great . Thanks

-- Patrick's work shop

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Medickep

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#14 posted 223 days ago

I haven’t had it very long, but I do like it so far. I bought a steel 25 gallon barrel to mount it on for 20 dollars, so my advice is to think of how you’ll use it before you buy the 80 dollar setup. I got a square gasket from HD and cut out a gasket between the DD and the lid. I knew mine would be stationary so I didn’t need the wheels, 5 gallon barrel or the ability to mount it to my shop vac.

The only negative I can think of is that the shop vac hoses I had lying around did not seem to fit real tight due to the tapered ports, so I used some hose clamps and real duct tape to seal it. I believe the delux setup comes with some o’rings to help with that issue.

Also my first one rolled off of my bench and cracked! Oneida replaced it but I thought that was a little weak from 36” or so. So don’t drop it or over tighten your hardware!

-- Keith

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Medickep

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#15 posted 223 days ago

Also, I had a circle cut out of wood that I had from my first attempt with a garbage can, so I used it. Not sure it was necessary with the steel barrel.

The picture is before I sealed the shop vac hoses!

-- Keith

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