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Forum topic by serpentine5 posted 12-27-2013 04:38 PM 909 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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serpentine5

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12-27-2013 04:38 PM

I am in the process of building a more static DC system. I do not have the room for a huge Dust Collector so I use a Fien shop vac with a Dust Deputy Cyclone separator, but I hate moving this system around to all my various tools. I want to leave it in one location and connect everything with flex hose and run the hose to the Fien. I have been searching for 2inch hose to connect everything with but I cannot find anything affordable. I figured I could atleast find someone out there who sold bulk hose for a decent enough price. Nope.
Thanks much


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kdc68

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#1 posted 12-27-2013 05:18 PM

Two choices from Grizzly. Links below

http://www.grizzly.com/products/2-x-10-Hose/D4211

http://www.grizzly.com/products/2-x-10-Clear-Hose/D4202

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#2 posted 12-27-2013 05:32 PM

Ahem…be advised I ordered some hose from them and while the box arrived in perfect condition the hose was bent flat at both ends because it wouldn’t fit in the box, intentionally mashed, squashed, rendered utterly useless.

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#3 posted 12-27-2013 06:08 PM

Who has the “best” hose – good question. I have: a 2-1/2” from Rockler, of which the clear pvc has detached it’s self from the wire, in three places; 4” from Rockler, Woodcraft, and Woodworkers. All have the same problem of separation of the clear part from the wire windings. The problem is the pvc is made in sections, then each section is wrapped over the wire. The separation begins at the connection to the tool, where the hose bends out of the connection. To “slow” down this type of self destruction, I wrap the end with electrical tape to approx. 6” down the hose, then clamp over that with a hose clamp. Most times this works, sometimes not. What is it with the manufacturers who can’t seem to recognize this problem? I’ve used the black plastic hoses that come with any shop vac – that stuff is so ridged it’s like trying to wrestle an alligator!

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Radu

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#4 posted 12-27-2013 06:14 PM

There was a conversation here a little while ago on the same subject. Someone was recommending pool cleaning hose from Walmart. It is smooth in side. I don’t know if it’s the size you need but I’d say check it out. If I happen to find that conversation I’ll get you the link to it.

Here it is:
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/6858

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#5 posted 12-27-2013 06:15 PM

Before you go through all that effort and expense, you may want to evaluate your strategy. I got a pretty powerful shop vac just before buying my dust collector. I found it is good for some things, but completely useless for others. Table saw being the biggest example. The shop vac attached was worse than no dust collection at all. Only the stuff that fell directly into the chute was collected, and 10 times out of 10, a piece of wood fell in and clogged it.

I got a small portable dust collector that doesn’t take up any more space than my shop vac and it evacuates the entire cabinet without clogging

Some tools benefit from high static pressure (suction), some tools benefit from high volume (CFM)

Dust collector – low static pressure, high volume (my small one is rated at 660CFM)
Shop vac – high static pressure, low volume (your fein probably pulls about 100 CFM)

Generally speaking, if the tool has a 4” port, a shop vac will not be adequate; and may even be worse than nothing at all

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#6 posted 12-27-2013 07:23 PM

I have the C-man version of this and it is small enough it will alnost fit in a milk crate (empty of course), and it did a great job. I used it for a long time and still have it. I recently finished building my cyclone setup, and I decided to use the little one on the other side of the shop to save money on the 6” pipe.

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#7 posted 12-27-2013 07:32 PM

Try Penn State Industries, and Peachtree Woodworking.

For what it’s worth. If you want fine dust control (health issue prevention) then even that expensive Fein won’t cut the mustard. You need at LEAST 4” ducting. I know all about space being an issue, but make a way to get fine dust collection in there…

Of course if you just want it to look clean and don’t care about the nasty things wood dust does to us over the years, stick with 2.5” hoses, and a pricey shop vac…

You will want a dust collector that will filter to at least 1 micron if now lower. Most of the portable single bag models go 5 if you are lucky. However some models, like the PSI DC660P does feature a 1 micron bag.

Do some research into this area, and you will likely want to build or buy a cyclone and duct it… At the very least a Thien separator on a HF 2HP DC with an aftermarket 1 micron bag…

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#8 posted 12-27-2013 07:33 PM

I bought this hose for my panel saw. While I don’t drag the
hose around on the floor, it’s tough hose for the price and will probably
hold up pretty well. You’ll pay a premium for a clear hose. Anything
less than 2.5” will be prone to clog with larger shavings if you work with
hand planes.

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MedicKen

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#9 posted 12-28-2013 12:30 AM

http://www.blastgateco.com/Flex-Hose.php

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#10 posted 12-28-2013 12:40 AM

woodworkersupply.com

Probably the best prices and quality you’ll find the hose is actually very good quality even at the lowest thickness.

http://woodworker.com/25-x-10-clear-pvc-renfrcd-hose-mssu-124-718.asp

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#11 posted 12-28-2013 01:25 AM

I got some awesome Woodstock collapsible hose. It pops out for when you’re using, and then collapses down for storage.
http://www.ptreeusa.com/dusthose.htm

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#12 posted 12-28-2013 05:35 PM

I noticed nobody has addressed the problem I have encountered – any solutions?

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UpstateNYdude

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#13 posted 12-31-2013 04:19 AM

Jimbo have you tried heating up the ends so it stretches easier over the connection then clamping it down I use wire clamps myself as I find less tension is needed to keep them from moving plus they don’t ride on the ridges.

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Jimbo4

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#14 posted 12-31-2013 05:11 PM

Nick – It’s not the ends that unravel. It’s the part of the hose that is projecting past the end of the connector that is giving me all the trouble with delamination.

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brtech

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#15 posted 12-31-2013 07:10 PM

Jimbo4, you use “quick connect” connections. The quick connect mounts “permanently” on the hose and you move the connector from tool to tool.

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